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02-08-2013, 10:58 AM #1
Remote Control Instead of Wall Switch for Lighting
Is there anything in the code books that would supersede the installation of a wall switch outlet to operate lighting in a habitable room? Such as a remote for a ceiling light/fan fixture?
210.70 (1)
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02-08-2013, 12:52 PM #2
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02-08-2013, 03:31 PM #3
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And it is interesting that the NEC doesn't require the switch to be in the room. You could have all the switches for every room in the house located in the garage. With some exception such as stairways, hallways, attached and detached garages, attics and such.
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02-08-2013, 07:21 PM #4
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02-08-2013, 10:06 PM #5
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In Canada, the CEC requires minimum 3 feet (1 meter) from a shower or tub to the wall switch. In a small bathroom, that quite often means the light switch and exhaust fan switch are out in the hall. We are used to it, not a problem.
If the manufacturer provides only a remote to control the light, does that eliminate the need for the wall switch? The switch in the circuit would interfere with the use of the remote, such as if someone cuts power at the wall, the remote won't work. I think this is what Mike is asking?
John Kogel, RHI, BC HI Lic #47455
www.allsafehome.ca
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02-08-2013, 10:19 PM #6
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02-08-2013, 10:22 PM #7
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I'll take the NEC at its word. A remote is not a wall switched outlet so having just a remote won't suffice.
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02-09-2013, 03:19 AM #8
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02-09-2013, 05:28 AM #9
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02-09-2013, 05:46 AM #10
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In summary of the prior posts, there must be one wall switched outlet in the room, but the switch can be outside the room. If there is a second circuit for a remote operated fan/light, it does not require a wall switch.
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02-09-2013, 06:40 AM #11
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I think this will clear it up or you. This what Robert was referring to as well.
2011 NEC
Section 210.70 (A)(1)
(1) Habitable Rooms. At least one wall switch–controlled lighting outlet shall be installed in every habitable room and bathroom.
Exception No. 1: In other than kitchens and bathrooms,
one or more receptacles controlled by a wall switch shall
be permitted in lieu of lighting outlets.
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02-09-2013, 08:51 AM #12
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02-09-2013, 09:31 AM #13
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02-09-2013, 09:39 AM #14
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02-09-2013, 11:35 AM #15
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02-09-2013, 11:43 AM #16
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Unfortunately (in my opinion), yes, a wall-switch controlled receptacle outlet is acceptable for the required wall-switch controlled lighting outlet in bedrooms and the like. I just have to keep reminding myself that the codes, all of them, are "minimums" and that even the NEC states that an installation in accordance with its requirements may not provide an installation which is efficient or even adequate for its intended use. What better acknowledgement than that can we get that even the NEC (which many contractors think is a high standard to reach) is a "minimum" code.
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