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    Default Hydromassage Tub GFCI

    Does the dedicated hydromassage tub GFCI needs to be installed at a readily accessible location, or just an accessible location? Meaning, the GFCI is installed next to the tub's pump in the cabinet. To get to it, you need to remove the access panel.

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    Default Re: Hydromassage Tub GFCI

    thanks!


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    Default Re: Hydromassage Tub GFCI

    In the 2014 code, the definition of readily accessible will change slightly to "Capable of being reached quickly for operation, renewal, or inspections without requiring those to whom ready access is requisite to actions such as; to use tools, to climb over or remove obstacles, or to resort to portable ladders, and so forth."

    In the case of a hydromassage tub, if the GFCI was behind a door that could be opened by hand, it would be readily accessible. If the hatch required a screwdriver to open, it would not.

    The dissenters to this code change have pointed out that a key could be considered a tool for purposes of this new rule.

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    Default Re: Hydromassage Tub GFCI

    Robert, was the requirement just accessible prior to the 08 readily accessible? I remember a word changing during a code update class.

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    Default Re: Hydromassage Tub GFCI

    Thats what I thought. So depending on when the tub was installed it may have met the code cycle enforce at that time. It would just not meet the later versions.

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    Default Re: Hydromassage Tub GFCI

    Is a GFI breaker in the panel box acceptable or does if have to be a GFI outlet at the tub location?

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Meier View Post
    From the NEC:



    Article 100 definition:



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    Default Re: Hydromassage Tub GFCI

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Smith View Post
    Is a GFI breaker in the panel box acceptable or does if have to be a GFI outlet at the tub location?
    I know of no requirement for the GFCI protection to be located at the equipment.
    A GFCI breaker in the panel is acceptable.

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    Default Re: Hydromassage Tub GFCI

    I agree Rick, the device was typically used vs the breaker due to the decreased cost. Ten dollars vs forty makes a difference.

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    Default Re: Hydromassage Tub GFCI

    For the newer guys, the GFCI is often located in the master bath/bed closet, if it is a newer house. It may also be located on the wall behind the bathroom, so be sure to look around a little if it doesn't seem to be present. As stated, it can also be in the panel. I inspect the panel before the bathrooms, so if I see it there I make a little note on my checklist so I remember to check it later.

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    Default Re: Hydromassage Tub GFCI

    Just a note; when dealing with hydromassage, pools, spas, etc., make sure you don't mix up the requirements for overcurrent protection/gfci & disconnecting means all while the dog & skeeters are biting and your cell is buzzing your pocket.
    Been there.


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