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    Jerry,

    Two questions...

    1) WWII or Cold War era?
    2) Any violations?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunnar Alquist View Post
    Jerry,

    Two questions...

    1) WWII or Cold War era?
    The USS Torsk (SS-423) is one of two Tench Class submarines still located inside the United States.

    Construction started: June 7, 1944

    Launched: September 6, 1944

    Length: 312′

    Year built: 1944

    2) Any violations?
    Wartime violations? Probably declassified now, but I didn't search the records ...

    It was strictly a "visual" inspection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Peck View Post
    .................

    It was strictly a "visual" inspection.

    Didn't remove the panel to inspect??? Didn't have the tools with you???

    One of the interesting things about this sub was that it had a crew of about 80.
    Ever heard of the term "rack and stack" and wondered where it came from?


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    How do you like that Garry, Jerry comes to our hometown and doesn't even wave or offer to buy a drink. Jeesh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Peck View Post
    I saw my first subpanel earlier this week, up close and personal.

    If that's a sub panel I hate to see what the main service disconnect looks like
    Generators as well I gather.
    How much voltage?

    Visual only? No dismounting the dead front, Jerry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Port View Post
    How do you like that Garry, Jerry comes to our hometown and doesn't even wave or offer to buy a drink. Jeesh.
    You guys in Baltimore?

    Your location only says Maryland ... not Baltimore - how was I to know Baltimore?

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    I believe 'rack and stack' refers to the sleeping arrangement. Since space was a premium, the bunks would be utilized by the next watch coming off duty. With 80 crew there was no way you fit 80 bunk beds in the hull. The beds were still warm when the next crewman got into them. Shift sleeping.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymond Wand View Post
    I believe 'rack and stack' refers to the sleeping arrangement. Since space was a premium, the bunks would be utilized by the next watch coming off duty. With 80 crew there was no way you fit 80 bunk beds in the hull. The beds were still warm when the next crewman got into them. Shift sleeping.
    That is where the term "hot cotting" comes from.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Peck View Post
    You guys in Baltimore?

    Your location only says Maryland ... not Baltimore - how was I to know Baltimore?
    No worries. Very sure you had better use of time with family and friends than wasting it with old geezers at the bar retelling war stories.

    Hope it was a good trip.


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    The trip was because one of our daughters had brain and skull cancer surgery at Johns Hopkins last Wednesday.

    Today we brought her back to Asheville where she lives.

    So far, none of the predicted potential complications has arisen. It was only the sixth such operation they have done (a rare cancer in an extremely rare location - they wouldn't even do a biopsy except during the surgery because of the risk).

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    Hopkins brings people to Baltimore from all over the world for some of the worst reasons.

    Will say a prayer for your daughter.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Garry Sorrells View Post
    No worries. Very sure you had better use of time with family and friends than wasting it with old geezers at the bar retelling war stories.

    Hope it was a good trip.
    Who are these old geezers?

    Wishes for a speedy recovery.

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    Being the Grandpa - it was left to me to keep our granddaughter busy on the day of the surgery ... so I took her to see the ships, which was fun for both of us.

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    Jerry, my prayers are to you and your family for the best outcome. I bet you make a great grandfather. She must be so proud.

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    Jerry, my thoughts and prayers are with you and your daughter.

    The beatings will continue until morale has improved. mgt.

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    It sounds like the operation went well, so let's hope the recovery goes well, too. Cancer is harshest when young people are affected. But she is strong and has your support. Moral support helps so much. Best wishes to you all.

    Good to see you using 'subpanel' in a sentence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Peck View Post
    You guys in Baltimore?

    Your location only says Maryland ... not Baltimore - how was I to know Baltimore?
    That's one problem with being too general.

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    Prayers sent to your daughter Jerry for a full recovery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Peck View Post
    The trip was because one of our daughters had brain and skull cancer surgery at Johns Hopkins last Wednesday.

    Today we brought her back to Asheville where she lives.

    So far, none of the predicted potential complications has arisen. It was only the sixth such operation they have done (a rare cancer in an extremely rare location - they wouldn't even do a biopsy except during the surgery because of the risk).
    Jerry
    My very best wishes and sincere hope for your daughter's full and complete recovery and peace to your family.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Port View Post
    Who are these old geezers?

    Wishes for a speedy recovery.
    Anybody over 30 now seems to be an old geezer.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Garry Sorrells View Post
    Anybody over 30 now seems to be an old geezer.
    Garry, If that is the case, do I qualify as a double old geezer passing sixty last year?

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    Jerry,

    That's quite a burden to carry. Not only for you, but the rest of your family. Trusting good news will triumph over the adversity for you and yours.

    Sincerely,
    Raymond


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    Best wishes to your daughter, and to you and the rest of your family, Jerry - I hope all turns out well. ...and congratulations on being able to keep a cool head - taking your granddaughter out for an excursion, while a complicated surgery goes on.
    I'm sure you put the doctors at ease so they can concentrate on their job, knowing that you would fulfill your quest in search of the elusive subpanel... proving to all us out here in inspectionland that such a thing does exist.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ROBERT YOUNG View Post
    Garry, If that is the case, do I qualify as a double old geezer passing sixty last year?
    No. you are elevated to the status of " Old Fart:" at that point.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Garry Sorrells View Post
    No. you are elevated to the status of " Old Fart:" at that point.
    Phew...You had me worried there for a minute.
    Never liked being an Old Geezer for 30 years.
    On top of that, I could never picture myself as a double old geezer.

    But Old Fart on the other hand.
    Cut the hair short to hide the Gray, add some Old Spice to smell nice and the Old fart is back in the game:-)
    Thanks Garry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Page View Post
    Jerry
    My very best wishes and sincere hope for your daughter's full and complete recovery and peace to your family.
    Thank you to all for the best wishes for a full recovery for our daughter - so far, all is going well.

    I am back home after having spent almost a week an Johns Hopkins and than almost another week in Asheville, my wife will be staying in Asheville for another 2-3 weeks.

    When I was in the sub with my grand daughter and saw the subpanels, I explained to my granddaughter what many people call subpanels but that these are real subpanels and I had to take some photos of them. Her response was 'Oh Grandpa, really?' as in 'get a life' - she is 10 and knows how I work.

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