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    Did inspection on upgraded home. Bathroom receptacles had a tag attached on each which said it was GFCI protected. Outlets wouldn't trip. No master anywhere, including in the electrical panel. Is this a scam, or legit?

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    Is this a scam, or legit?
    It is an issue that needs to be corrected.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald Stauffer View Post
    Did inspection on upgraded home. Bathroom receptacles had a tag attached on each which said it was GFCI protected. Outlets wouldn't trip. No master anywhere, including in the electrical panel. Is this a scam, or legit?
    People hide GFCI's in the strangest places but all you can do is report it as not working if you can't find it. I lucked out once and heard the GFCI trip but couldn't find it: owner had to show it was in the closet of the adjoining room behind stacks of boxes.


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    If it doesn't trip with your GFCI tester, then report that it did not trip with your GFCI tester, that there is a label stating it us GFCI protected but no GFCI device was found - an electrical contractor needs locate the GFCI device that the "GFCI protected" label is referring to, replace that GFCI device, then document that the receptacle outlet in question is properly GFCI protected.

    You can suggest replacing the receptacle outlet with a GFCI device receptacle outlet.

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    Default Re: GFCI Protected?

    You said updated, but was the wiring grounded? If not the feeder will not trip the gfi.

    All answers based on unamended National Electrical codes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Peck View Post
    If it doesn't trip with your GFCI tester, then report that it did not trip with your GFCI tester, that there is a label stating it us GFCI protected but no GFCI device was found - an electrical contractor needs locate the GFCI device that the "GFCI protected" label is referring to, replace that GFCI device, then document that the receptacle outlet in question is properly GFCI protected.

    You can suggest replacing the receptacle outlet with a GFCI device receptacle outlet.
    Thanks, Jerry. You put the exact words in my mouth I was hoping to report.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Port View Post
    You said updated, but was the wiring grounded? If not the feeder will not trip the gfi.
    Quote Originally Posted by Donald Stauffer View Post
    Thanks, Jerry. You put the exact words in my mouth I was hoping to report.
    Jim gave a reason to not immediately presume, and state, "not GFCI protected" in your report, one of the reasons I said to " locate the GFCI device that the "GFCI protected" label is referring to, replace that GFCI device," - and I thought about adding "as necessary" but did not to keep my reply shorter ... and, alas, Jim pointed out why I should have added that. I seem to regret trying to keep posts shorter more often than I regret writing 'War and Peace' posts, oh well ...

    If it was a GFCI breaker in the panel, you would have seen that, but ... as Jim was pointing out, a GFCI tester will not trip a GFCI device on an ungrounded system which was updated to grounding-type receptacle outlets - you need to find the GFCI device being referred to (and, yes, the sticker may be fake, but it may not be fake too).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Peck View Post
    Jim gave a reason to not immediately presume, and state, "not GFCI protected" in your report, one of the reasons I said to " locate the GFCI device that the "GFCI protected" label is referring to, replace that GFCI device," - and I thought about adding "as necessary" but did not to keep my reply shorter ... and, alas, Jim pointed out why I should have added that. I seem to regret trying to keep posts shorter more often than I regret writing 'War and Peace' posts, oh well ...

    If it was a GFCI breaker in the panel, you would have seen that, but ... as Jim was pointing out, a GFCI tester will not trip a GFCI device on an ungrounded system which was updated to grounding-type receptacle outlets - you need to find the GFCI device being referred to (and, yes, the sticker may be fake, but it may not be fake too).
    Thanks guys. I added, "as necessary", Jerry. Also thanks to Jim, I made a note in report about it may be ungrounded, but still should be verified by an electrical person.


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    Default Re: GFCI Protected?

    You should know if the outlet you tested was grounded or not.

    Not all GFCI's will trip with an outlet tester 100% of the time. I have found some GFCI outlets would not trip with my tester, but would trip if I pushed the "test" button.

    Electricians put them in strange places, and we all waste a lot of time looking for them. Just today I found the garage circuit was controlled by a GFCI in the laundry room (next to sink). and the exterior outlets were controlled by a basement bathroom GFCI.


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    Default Re: GFCI Protected?

    It seems like everyone has miss the OP post..
    "Outlets wouldn't trip"
    They should have tripped the GFCI down stream. OK?
    It is an issue refer it.


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    Default Re: GFCI Protected?

    Quote Originally Posted by Donald Stauffer View Post
    Outlets wouldn't trip. No master anywhere,
    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Lewis View Post
    It seems like everyone has miss the OP post..
    "Outlets wouldn't trip"
    They should have tripped the GFCI down stream. OK?
    It is an issue refer it.
    Roy,

    Seems that you may have missed the above part in the original post ... and why what you stated is not correct ... unless you meant to state the following 'when using the TEST button on the GFCI device ... which the OP indicated he couldn't find (maybe you missed that part too?).

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    Default Re: GFCI Protected?

    What about these GFCI receptacles? How do you report them?


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    Default Re: GFCI Protected?

    Quote Originally Posted by ROBERT YOUNG View Post
    What about these GFCI receptacles? How do you report them?
    In what way and about what?

    Missing cover?

    Not TR, not WR?

    That there are two side by side (is there a problem with that?).

    Etc.

    You need to be more specific about what you are asking about.

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    Default Re: GFCI Protected?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Peck View Post
    In what way and about what?

    Missing cover?

    Not TR, not WR?

    That there are two side by side (is there a problem with that?).

    Etc.

    You need to be more specific about what you are asking about.
    Nothing wrong. Just wanted to show the viewers a GFI meant for river Mooring.

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