Thread: circuit wires in front of main service wires

how about this one Jerry? Is it a big deal. I am going to tell them to have an electrician try again.

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Not a "big deal" but that electrician, Mr. Joe Cool, needs to take off his shades when he works inside ... so he can see what he is doing.

Or, maybe he was wearing his welder's glasses ... you know ... 'just in case'.

Extremely poor workmanship

That's what happens when people get in a hurry.

Isn't that wirenut in the panel an issue, as well? In Canada the code doesn't allow connections in a panel. I imagine US code won't allow either?

Originally Posted by Norm Grande

Isn't that wirenut in the panel an issue, as well? In Canada the code doesn't allow connections in a panel. I imagine US code won't allow either?

Depends on where the wires go.

If the wires are simply spliced longer and go to a terminal in the panel, that is okay.

If the wires are spliced together and continue on through the panel going out to something else, that is not okay.

Installation does not meet code.
The (dare I say it) manufacturer intends the conductors to be routed outside of the 'conductor guides', seen in the photo as plastic protrusions on either side of the panel.

If it is necessary for the conductors to cross over one side to the other, they must run clear of the service conductor terminations; yet, no conductors can run inside the conductor guides.
Bob Smit, County EI

Originally Posted by bob smit

Installation does not meet code.
The (dare I say it) manufacturer intends the conductors to be routed outside of the 'conductor guides', seen in the photo as plastic protrusions on either side of the panel.

If it is necessary for the conductors to cross over one side to the other, they must run clear of the service conductor terminations; yet, no conductors can run inside the conductor guides.
Bob Smit, County EI

Originally Posted by Jerry Peck

Not a "big deal" but that electrician, Mr. Joe Cool, needs to take off his shades when he works inside ... so he can see what he is doing.

Or, maybe he was wearing his welder's glasses ... you know ... 'just in case'.

Bob,

That's what I was referring to ... an easy fix, but be careful about doing some unintentional spot welding moving those wires around.

I hear U Jerry. Just wanted to point out the wire guides.
As related to 'crossing over'; most panelboards have lug pockets of one sort or another, so we usually don't have to concern ourselves with conductors rubbing on service terminations.
Bob Smit, County EI