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    Default circuit wires in front of main service wires

    how about this one Jerry? Is it a big deal. I am going to tell them to have an electrician try again.

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    Default Re: circuit wires in front of main service wires

    Not a "big deal" but that electrician, Mr. Joe Cool, needs to take off his shades when he works inside ... so he can see what he is doing.

    Or, maybe he was wearing his welder's glasses ... you know ... 'just in case'.

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    Cool Re: circuit wires in front of main service wires

    Extremely poor workmanship


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    Default Re: circuit wires in front of main service wires

    That's what happens when people get in a hurry.


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    Smile Re: circuit wires in front of main service wires

    Isn't that wirenut in the panel an issue, as well? In Canada the code doesn't allow connections in a panel. I imagine US code won't allow either?


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    Default Re: circuit wires in front of main service wires

    Quote Originally Posted by Norm Grande View Post
    Isn't that wirenut in the panel an issue, as well? In Canada the code doesn't allow connections in a panel. I imagine US code won't allow either?
    Depends on where the wires go.

    If the wires are simply spliced longer and go to a terminal in the panel, that is okay.

    If the wires are spliced together and continue on through the panel going out to something else, that is not okay.

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    Default Re: circuit wires in front of main service wires

    Installation does not meet code.
    The (dare I say it) manufacturer intends the conductors to be routed outside of the 'conductor guides', seen in the photo as plastic protrusions on either side of the panel.

    If it is necessary for the conductors to cross over one side to the other, they must run clear of the service conductor terminations; yet, no conductors can run inside the conductor guides.
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    Default Re: circuit wires in front of main service wires

    Quote Originally Posted by bob smit View Post
    Installation does not meet code.
    The (dare I say it) manufacturer intends the conductors to be routed outside of the 'conductor guides', seen in the photo as plastic protrusions on either side of the panel.

    If it is necessary for the conductors to cross over one side to the other, they must run clear of the service conductor terminations; yet, no conductors can run inside the conductor guides.
    Bob Smit, County EI
    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Peck View Post
    Not a "big deal" but that electrician, Mr. Joe Cool, needs to take off his shades when he works inside ... so he can see what he is doing.

    Or, maybe he was wearing his welder's glasses ... you know ... 'just in case'.

    Bob,

    That's what I was referring to ... an easy fix, but be careful about doing some unintentional spot welding moving those wires around.

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    Default Re: circuit wires in front of main service wires

    I hear U Jerry. Just wanted to point out the wire guides.
    As related to 'crossing over'; most panelboards have lug pockets of one sort or another, so we usually don't have to concern ourselves with conductors rubbing on service terminations.
    Bob Smit, County EI


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