Thread: Electrical under kitchen island

The receptacle box doesnt seem to be correct for this type of application (receptacle in side of cabinet under island counter). I thought they were only for recessed applications into walls.

In addition, the metal box and wiring to the receptacle seem to be a lazy way of running power from under the cabinet to the receptacle. They sure take up a lot of space in the cabinet. Thoughts?

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At least they protected the wire. It should be secured though. I see similar in center island cabinets. The boxes are secured. Yes, it does

Ted

The installation of that box in a cabinet is not a problem.

MAKING A HOLE THAT LARGE THROUGH THE SIDE it, though. Those boxes are designed to have the NM cable enter through the built-in clamps, in the corners, there is no way there is sufficient wire bending space, much less space for the lock nut on the inside, between the end of that fitting and the device (receptacle)!

That's a mulligan. (Do it over. For free. )

Thanks guys. It seems to be like the knockout tab near the top being open would be a problem. I dont know why, but I thought that the blue plastic boxes were only allowed to be recessed in a wall.

John,

They are available for "new work" and "old work" with the difference being in the way they are mounted.

"New work" is attached to the stud, nails, screws, etc.

"Old work" is secured to the wall surface (gypsum board, wood, etc.) with clamps of various means and methods.

When mounted in wood, the front edge of that box is required to be even with, or extend out beyond, the combustible surface ... not allowed to be recessed back 1/4" as if in a gypsum board wall.

Thanks Jerry.

John,

just because the box is allowed does not mean they are allowed to mutilate it like that.

Why would the guy use liquidtight, a metal 1900 box and a plastic box for that install? He must have watched on of the DIY shows.
Curious, did you test the recep for grounding. I kind of doubt it is legitimately grounded.

Originally Posted by Markus Keller

Curious, did you test the recep for grounding. I kind of doubt it is legitimately grounded.

Markus,

I hope it is grounded, probably won't take much to short/ground fault out those pinched-between-the-box-side-and-receptacle-screws conductors.

Plus, I hope that ENT was secured in place.

Originally Posted by Shannon Guinn

Plus, I hope that ENT was secured in place.

Yeah, and the photos are of a small enough view that the 12" from the box is not visible.