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05-08-2007, 06:23 PM
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Outlet just outside it's life
From today's inspection
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05-08-2007, 06:47 PM
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Re: Outlet just outside it's life
Was it still "functioning as intended"?
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05-08-2007, 06:48 PM
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Re: Outlet just outside it's life
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Did it test grounded or not????
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05-08-2007, 07:12 PM
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Re: Outlet just outside it's life
Just needs some "Great Stuff" and duct tape.
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05-08-2007, 07:20 PM
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Re: Outlet just outside it's life
Do you paint the duct tape?
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05-08-2007, 07:29 PM
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Re: Outlet just outside it's life
It's upside down.
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05-09-2007, 05:23 AM
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Re: Outlet just outside it's life
Was not grounded. Actually the conduit was rusted thru and disconnected in another area.
No, I don't think it was "functioning as intended"
JF
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05-09-2007, 05:39 AM
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Re: Outlet just outside it's life
But it was "rusting as intended". You're so picky.
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05-09-2007, 06:30 AM
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Re: Outlet just outside it's life
Tim,
It's right side up.
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05-09-2007, 07:24 AM
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Re: Outlet just outside it's life
Originally Posted by Tim Moreira
It's upside down.
Originally Posted by Thom Walker
Tim,
It's right side up.
Actually ... it's "either side up".
Neither is incorrect.
It is 'not typical' as the ground is 'typically' installed down. |
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05-09-2007, 08:49 AM
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Re: Outlet just outside it's life
I didn't say it was incorrect. I said it was right side up. I'm sick and tired of all you "electrician types" always putting the ground down. It's like it's beneath you or something.
We here at NOGUTS (National Organization of Grounds Up Top of Slots) have had enough of your alleged "convention." Our illustrators have permeated your nefarious publications and are changing the pictorials as we speak. We have members inside the NCE elite. Coed Check has already be reeducated. Your fancy-schmancy "convention" is doomed.
Rise up Ground, Rise up!
[If you'd like to become a certified member of NOGUTS, send your application, along with your credit card, pin#, and SASE to me. I'll send you a test booklet (one question, two hour time limit, self proctored) and an answer sheet so you can check yourself when you're finished. A certification certificate will be enclosed. Do not use it if you don't pass the test.]
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05-09-2007, 11:07 AM
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Re: Outlet just outside it's life
Originally Posted by Tim Moreira
It's upside down.
Originally Posted by Thom Walker
Tim,
It's right side up.
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05-09-2007, 05:27 PM
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Re: Outlet just outside it's life
Actually, there is a good reason to install the ground hole up. All of the outlets in my house are installed that way.
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05-09-2007, 05:43 PM
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Re: Outlet just outside it's life
Same here Lou.
I actually heard at a seminar that NEC was wanting them to be installed with the ground on the top in 2008 or 09.
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05-09-2007, 06:48 PM
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Re: Outlet just outside it's life
There is a better reason to install them with the ground down.
This debate has been going on since the addition of that third prong ... ground on top or on the bottom, people give good reasons for both, but I buy the one with the ground down better.
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05-09-2007, 07:07 PM
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Re: Outlet just outside it's life
[quote=Thom Walker;5014]Coed Check has already be reeducated. Your fancy-schmancy "convention" is doomed.
Rise up Ground, Rise up!
Can I join that "coed check" organization?
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05-09-2007, 07:54 PM
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Re: Outlet just outside it's life
Jerry,
Originally Posted by Jerry Peck
There is a better reason to install them with the ground down.
I prefer them with the ground down, however at the hospital I work at I have seen may a times where the outlet was installed ground down with a metal cover plate. (Almost all of the plates are metal, not my call)
Don't ask me how or why, but, when the center screw backs it's self out and falls to the ground, (this happens more than you might think) and then the next unsuspecting person comes along and goes to plug something in and they bump the outlet as they insert the plug, BOOOOOOM. The metal cover plate falls across the hot and neutral and scares the crap out of the person doing it and trips the breaker. 
If the ground was up, that would not happen.
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05-09-2007, 08:30 PM
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Re: Outlet just outside it's life
[quote=Victor DaGraca;5061]
Originally Posted by Thom Walker
Coed Check has already be reeducated. Your fancy-schmancy "convention" is doomed.
Rise up Ground, Rise up!
Can I join that "coed check" organization?
Send your credit card and pin# and you can. Hell, I'll throw in lifetime membership in the NCE with it. But a prerequisite is NOGUTS certification.
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05-09-2007, 08:50 PM
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Re: Outlet just outside it's life
Originally Posted by Jerry Peck
There is a better reason to install them with the ground down.
Not sure I would say it is a "better" reason. A "different" reason, perhaps. |
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05-09-2007, 08:53 PM
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Re: Outlet just outside it's life
Tim, just wondered why you say you prefer the ground down when you have first hand experience with the hazards of installing the outlet so the prongs can short out?
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05-09-2007, 09:01 PM
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