Results 1 to 10 of 10
  1. #1
    Stephen G Sheldon's Avatar
    Stephen G Sheldon Guest

    Default Garage Floor Clearance Issue

    Since code requires a step up into the house from a garage, why do gas water heaters need to be elevated 18" as opposed to being against the floor?

    Similar Threads:
    Inspection Referral

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Plano, Texas
    Posts
    4,245

    Default Re: Garage Floor Clearance Issue

    Have you ever seen the warning label on water heaters with the little fire breaking out due to the ignition at the water heater?
    Flammable vapors tend to have higher concentrations along the floor and testing indicates that elevating ignition sources (not just water heaters) a minimum of 18" reduces the risk of ignition since the vapors tend to dissipate as you go up.

    The CPSC estimates that about 800 residential fires are caused by gas water heater incidents related to flammable vapors each year, resulting in about five deaths and 130 injuries.
    http://www.aga.org/NR/rdonlyres/58EC...ABLEVAPORS.pdf

    Jim Luttrall
    www.MrInspector.net
    Plano, Texas

  3. #3
    Stephen G Sheldon's Avatar
    Stephen G Sheldon Guest

    Default Re: Garage Floor Clearance Issue

    Thanks for the response. Glad to have an answer.


  4. #4
    Richard Stanley's Avatar
    Richard Stanley Guest

    Default Re: Garage Floor Clearance Issue

    Maybe I'm reading your question differently than Jim.
    The 18" requirement is for units installed in the garage - not the house - unless flammable storage areas.
    Most common gas/paint vapors are heavier than air and settle toward the lowest point and are therefore more susceptable to ignition sources. Thus the 18" clearance lowers the risk. Apologies if I misunderstood your question.


  5. #5
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Succasunna NJ
    Posts
    577

    Default Re: Garage Floor Clearance Issue

    What code are you referring to that requires a step-up from the garage?

    Darren www.aboutthehouseinspections.com
    'Whizzing & pasting & pooting through the day (Ronnie helping Kenny helping burn his poots away!) (FZ)

  6. #6
    Stephen G Sheldon's Avatar
    Stephen G Sheldon Guest

    Default Re: Garage Floor Clearance Issue

    Actually I read it in a Dearborn book entitled "Systems and Standards, The Principles of Home Inspection" p 117, requiring a 6" step-up. Is this not true? Would certainle like to know.


  7. #7
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Oregon
    Posts
    2,365

    Default Re: Garage Floor Clearance Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Darren Miller View Post
    What code are you referring to that requires a step-up from the garage?

    Funny, I had the same reaction last night when I first read this but was too tired to dispute it. If there is such a requirement, it's something new because I can think of several subdivisions of newer houses where you walk straight in. Granted, it's rare and usually registers in my mind as uncommon but I've never known it to be wrong.


  8. #8
    Bob Spermo's Avatar
    Bob Spermo Guest

    Default Re: Garage Floor Clearance Issue

    I do not believe there is a code requirement to step up from the garage to the house. It has been a standard practice to put a step up in case of spills etc.


  9. #9
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Fletcher, NC
    Posts
    28,042

    Default Re: Garage Floor Clearance Issue

    It's one of those "basic construction knowledge and common sense" items not addressed by code.

    Many years ago when I first started inspecting I inspected several new homes for some clients, the builder built the living space and the garage at the same level, no step up to the living space. I wrote it up and he said "prove I have to do that", I responded with "*I* don't have to prove are you are not required to do that, simple common sense knows better, after all you have to raise ignition sources up above the garage level, so why would you want those fumes to spill into the house along the floor?" - my clients were present and started reconsidering their purchase of those homes.

    That was in Boca Raton in Palm Beach County, the city building official I asked looked and said there was nothing in the code which required the step up, but common sense and basic construction knowledge did.

    I advised my clients that it was not the safest way to build, and that it seemed that EVERY OTHER BUILDER knew better too. Then I started looking around more closely for other reasons which my client could use to get out of their contracts and found many: The top of the slab was at garage level, not because they had raised the garage level, but because they had lowered the living level to the garage level, which put the living level too low, there was leakage all around (upon very close examination you could see it was starting to happen) and then there was the issue of the elevation not being above BFE/DFE, then, and then, and then, ...

    Several of my clients got out of their contracts, a few choose to buy (the houses were in a great location) but a few years later regretted it.

    The builder had built several with the flat slabs, about 6-8 of maybe 20 or so planned homes, after those first few, he started raising the living slab and putting in the step up.

    Any idiot builder who wants to build the living space level with the garage slab needs to live in those houses.

    Jerry Peck
    Construction/Litigation/Code Consultant - Retired
    www.AskCodeMan.com

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Succasunna NJ
    Posts
    577

    Default Re: Garage Floor Clearance Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen G Sheldon View Post
    Since code requires a step up into the house from a garage, why do gas water heaters need to be elevated 18" as opposed to being against the floor?
    The original post stated "since code requires..."

    As far as I know, the 2000, 2003 & 2006 IRC do NOT require a step-up from the garage to the house.

    The 1999 BOCA had the following-

    407.5 Door sills- The sills of all door openings between private garages and adjacent interior spaces shall be raised not less than 4 inches above the garage floor.

    So, if you are using the IRC, a step-up is not REQUIRED.

    Darren www.aboutthehouseinspections.com
    'Whizzing & pasting & pooting through the day (Ronnie helping Kenny helping burn his poots away!) (FZ)

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •