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    Default GAURDRAILS AROUND DECK

    hi all

    did a house yesterday and there was a deck that was 27" to be exact above ground and did not have a gaurdrail. pointed this out to seller who showed up at end of inspection and he said city said it could be 38 inches and did not require rail. my recollection is 24" max

    any input here

    thanks
    charlie

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    Default Re: GAURDRAILS AROUND DECK

    Assuming that they're using IRC:

    "R312.1 Guards.
    Porches, balconies, ramps or raised floor surfaces located more than 30 inches (762 mm) above the floor or grade below shall have guards not less than 36 inches (914 mm) in height."




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    Default Re: GAURDRAILS AROUND DECK

    In a case like that, I will state that a guardrail may not be required, but installation of a guardrail will increase safety.

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    Default Re: GUARDRAILS AROUND DECK

    I would always explain to my clients that, do you really think that 3" is going to injure you any less?

    They get it right away.

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    Default Re: GAURDRAILS AROUND DECK

    I would add that the built-in benches add enough height to require railings. Children, and stupid adults (which is most of them - like your AHJ for example) do not always distinguish between the horizontal portion of the deck intended to be walked upon and that which is intended to support fat asses.


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    Default Re: GAURDRAILS AROUND DECK

    When thiking of deck saftey I use the rule ," What would my drunk friends do?" Railing, seats, steps.....dancing with fat women....how would they hurt themself
    IRC is the min code for saftey...think higher.


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    Guardrails are a good idea, sorry, I thought they were racing on the deck. Nevermind.


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    Default Re: GAURDRAILS AROUND DECK

    ROB
    what did all that mean

    charlie


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    Default Re: GAURDRAILS AROUND DECK

    I read guardrails and thought what's around a racetrack. Sorry, I'll plead a blonde moment.


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    Default Re: GAURDRAILS AROUND DECK

    If the owner was there at the end of the inspection and thought the height was 38" for requiring a gaurd rail, then good luck on convincing him 27" is unsafe. He's within the 30" max. I would just move on with this one.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Door Guy View Post
    If the owner was there at the end of the inspection and thought the height was 38" for requiring a gaurd rail, then good luck on convincing him 27" is unsafe. He's within the 30" max. I would just move on with this one.
    I guess that's why you're just the "Door Guy". Bad advice.


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    Default Re: GAURDRAILS AROUND DECK

    I recommend 6" of bark mulch for a soft safe landing........


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    Default Re: GAURDRAILS AROUND DECK

    Quote Originally Posted by ben jacks View Post
    Good idea John,

    Does this imply that the grade-deck height reduction may permit avoiding the original code requirement? rbj
    Yep. Make that 7 1/2" of mulch and eliminate one riser on the steps too.


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    Default Re: GAURDRAILS AROUND DECK

    Hi, all &

    It's 24" up-here in good ol' Canada (B.C. - West Coast -to be more precise)...

    Just 'maybe' that Owner has already taken a 'HEADER" of his own Deck & that is why his logic is so 'bent' on the subject ?


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    Default Re: GUARDRAILS AROUND DECK

    With 6", 7", 8" of mulch ... I'd rather fall onto some nice grass, that mulch is no pleasure to fall onto - that mulch stuff can stick up in all the wrong directions, and it hurts.

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