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    Default nails / deck questions

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    What is that foil tape being used for? Please tell me that they are not using it for flashing! I do not see any lag bolts hold the the thing together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clay E White View Post
    Pic 1 : Nails for all joist hangers were rusting. Should not be rusting and be rated for exterior use (rust resistant) , correct?
    They should be hot dipped galvanized and if that is treated wood they need to be approved for use with treated wood.
    Pic 2 & 5: How far should the foil tape extend out of the stone? This one seems too short.
    As far as I know this is not an approved flashing method.
    Pic3: What is the proper terminology for this framing member installed at an angle and would you guys write it up as a defect?
    I guess it could be called a brace.

    Pic4: The bolts for the guardrail are not loose , however, they are installed at angles. Would you write it up as a defect?
    If the guard rail was stable that is about all that you can ask for.

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    Around here most AHJs would frown on that support pocket as 1) you don't know how much bearing is provided and 2) you can't easily inspect the wood member for the rot that will likely occur faster there than at the members which can more easily air-dry.


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    Clay,

    You may want to have this and the hyperlinks within to verify/validate your findings.

    Pressure-Treated Wood FAQs

    Bridge blocking is what I call that crooked piece

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    [QUOTE=Scott Patterson;19236]They should be hot dipped galvanized and if that is treated wood they need to be approved for use with treated wood.

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    Scott is right. Purdue performed a study on the new ACQ treated lumber and after 18 months stainless steel and hot dipped galvanized (not zinc coated) fasteners and hangers were the only fastners that held up. All other were corroded to a point that they either were not firmly holding or have failed. I can't find the actual study on the internet but a search on ACQ fasteners will inform you.

    How can you tell if the lumber was CCA or ACQ treated? ACQ treated lumber should be salty if you are brave (dumb) enough to lick it.

    Last edited by Jon Randolph; 09-24-2007 at 08:13 AM. Reason: spellllling

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    BTW,

    You can tell hot dipped galvanized by their dull grey appearance. SS and shiny electroplated fasteners can be identified with a weak magnet. (strong magnets do attract to some grades of SS)

    SS is generally not attracted to a weaker magnet.

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    Clay,

    Hope Scott does not mind my reply.

    The reason you can't use foil tape for flashing would be the same reason you can't use
    Duct tape to seal a Duct.

    It is not listed for this application.

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    I will go a bit further. Joist hangers need to also be rated for ACQ. Look for a "Z" embossed on the hanger. Some lumber yards will now only sell ACQ rated hanger to avoid any problems.

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