Sprayed-on vinyl siding - InspectionNews

Paul Tooley · #1 (**permalink**) 07-25-2007, 07:55 PM

Okay. new question. A realto whom I work with alot has told me that I will be inspecting a house that has "sprayed-on vinyl siding". I have researched it a bit and my opinion of it is not real high. I have never seen it myself. yet.

What kind of things should I watch out for?
It sounds like all of the original marketing pitches that the original glued-on EIFS had. Carpola all around.

Just asking. I tried to find any previous threads on this in the archives with no luck.
thanks

Jerry Peck · #2 (**permalink**) 07-25-2007, 09:37 PM

I'd be looking for the reasons *why* that crap was sprayed on in the first place.

Water intrusion all around the house? (With, of course, all the associated decayed wood.)

Oh, I forgot, that's one of those "new technologies" which standards have not yet been re-written around.

Paul Tooley · #3 (**permalink**) 07-26-2007, 08:03 PM

Actually, this one is pretty strange. Per the agent (this one's actually very sharp) the builder had the spray-on done as the finished siding material, at the time of initial construction. The house is about ten years old.

stranginteresting.

Scott Patterson · #4 (**permalink**) 07-26-2007, 08:11 PM

It is nothing but heavy thick paint. It will have rot and water damage that you can't see. I can guarantee it without even looking at the house.

Joseph P. Hagarty · #5 (**permalink**) 07-26-2007, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerry Peck

I'd be looking for the reasons *why* that crap was sprayed on in the first place....

...Oh, I forgot, that's one of those "new technologies" which standards have not yet been re-written around.

Sprayed Vinyl Siding.....Why?

Michael Larson · #6 (**permalink**) 07-30-2007, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Joseph P. Hagarty

Sprayed Vinyl Siding.....Why?

ADVANTAGES
Will Not Blister, Crack or Peel
Allows Wood to Breathe
Water & UV Resistant
Mildew & Pest Resistant
Increases Property Resale Value
30-year Warranty!

More

Still more
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I haven't come across it yet and remain skeptical. I was unable to find a copy of the "30 year warranty" on these sites. Hmmm.

ML

Jerry Peck · #7 (**permalink**) 07-30-2007, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Larson

ADVANTAGES
Will Not Blister, Crack or Peel
Allows Wood to Breathe
Water & UV Resistant
Mildew & Pest Resistant
Increases Property Resale Value
30-year Warranty!

Michael,

Curious, are you promoting this stuff or just relaying information others has stated?

*Any* coating applied to any surface can 'blister', 'crack', 'peel', may not allow the wood to breather, and I have yet to see where it "increases property resale value" - if anything (in my experience) it degrades a properties resale value, especially when (as Paul stated) "the builder had the spray-on done as the finished siding material, at the time of initial construction".

That stuff is used 'instead of' a regular siding? Now that is about as CHEAP as one can get.

Rick Bunzel · #8 (**permalink**) 07-30-2007, 10:29 AM

I have seen this applied over LP lap siding and in my opinion just a temporary fix. Will it last 15-20 years? Maybe over stucco but not wood or composite products.

Here is an article from Ask the Builder Miracle Liquid Siding Products

//Rick

Paul Tooley · #9 (**permalink**) 08-01-2007, 10:16 PM

I remember a few years back that another siding manufacturer promoted a really techo top of the line product that has been around for a long time with a "finish that's long-lasting, waterproof and allows your home to 'breathe'.". After a long class action process against several manufacturers, EIFS lost alot of its appeal.

I am interested in the product, but more from a "where are the problems" vantage than from a "honey, sell the farm, I'm gonna make us rich" point of view. Hopefully there are no problems to be had, and I will work it from there.

Jerry Peck · #10 (**permalink**) 08-02-2007, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Tooley

I am interested in the product, but more from a "where are the problems" vantage

Paul,

Think of those products as best case (or worst case, depending on your point of view): it's like wrapping the house in plastic warp (like this Saran Wrap, Saran, Saran ™ ) ...

That means the problem areas will be where the penetrations are through the plastic wrap. Just like every other siding and waterproofing. Windows, doors, exhaust fans, dryer exhausts, refrigerant lines, electrical, etc.

Then, you will also have the problems associated with the product actually performing as intended - i.e., it stop water. Many will also stop water vapor - and therein lies the problem. Water vapor from inside needs to be able to penetrate through the plastic wrap to escape outdoors ... and that does not always happen, meaning the water vapor stays "within" the walls, were it condenses into water ...

Michael Greenwalt · #11 (**permalink**) 08-02-2007, 12:23 PM

I'm glad your realtor was sharp enough to give you a heads up about the siding type you will be running in to. The first tip should also be......that the realtor gave you a heads up about the siding type you will be running into. Prepare accordingly and beware the realtor will be real glad to see your are inspecting and thier liability is shifted. Nothing devious about that, I would do the same thing.
IMHO