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08-10-2008, 07:59 AM
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What is this?
I saw this yesterday at a townhouse inspection. Can anyone tell me what it is? I can read the letters TBS on it. I'm just starting out so I'm seeing things for the first time that I'm sure many of you have seen many times before. Thanks for the help.
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08-10-2008, 08:58 AM
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Re: What is this?
Where did you find this? It looks like an outside pic. It could even be a irrigation fitting.
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08-10-2008, 09:19 AM
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Re: What is this?
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In the words of Mike Tyson.... "Everyone has a plan until they get hit inda mouf"
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08-10-2008, 09:30 AM
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Re: What is this?
Rick
"5 out of 4 people have trouble with fractions"
Are you sure
I thought it was 6 out of 4
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08-10-2008, 11:39 AM
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Re: What is this?
Originally Posted by Ted Menelly
Rick
"5 out of 4 people have trouble with fractions"
Are you sure
I thought it was 6 out of 4
Ted,
It's the new synergism math: 1 + 1 = more than 2.
Thus, synergetically speaking, 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 5.
Ask those 4 people how they make 5 and none will know, thus, it is a self-evident fact that 5 out of 4 don't know how you get 5 out of 4 ... therein lies the fractional trouble, i.e., "5 out of 4 people have trouble with fractions".
This truth is held as self-evident. 
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08-10-2008, 01:30 PM
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Re: What is this?
Can we go back to the 5 out of 4 part, I'm still a bit confused?
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08-10-2008, 01:58 PM
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Re: What is this?
Originally Posted by Michael Greenwalt
Can we go back to the 5 out of 4 part, I'm still a bit confused?
Synergy does that on you.
Now you are one with yourself and that one is greater than the sum of its parts. Hmmm ... does that not therefore make you 'more-than-one-with-yourself'? 
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08-10-2008, 05:41 PM
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Re: What is this?
Thanks Rick,They did say they were setting traps for termites. Didn't know what they looked liked(the traps). Now I know. 
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08-10-2008, 07:27 PM
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Re: What is this?
Originally Posted by David O'Keefe
Thanks Rick,They did say they were setting traps for termites. Didn't know what they looked liked(the traps). Now I know. 
David,
I know youre new to the industry so I was wondering if you are doing real inspections yet or if youre still working on practice inspections.
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08-10-2008, 08:03 PM
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Re: What is this?
Brian,
Still doing mock inspections. If all goes well should have my license in early september.
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08-10-2008, 08:16 PM
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Re: What is this?
cool, good luck. We still dont have any licensing requirements in ohio yet.
Did a mock today on a friends house. It went welll, still trying to develop my flow though. Getting better at it.
How are your mock inspections going?
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08-10-2008, 08:32 PM
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Brian,
My mocks are going well. One problem though, when 2-3 guys are trying to look at an electric panel or a bathroom it gets kinda crowded. So what I try to do is the opposite of everyone else. I do the inside first and then the outside. I'm pretty much on my own then. I'm also going on some ridealongs and one thing I have noticed that you can't learn in a classroom is how to communicate with the client. That is an important aspect of the job and one I'm going to struggle with in the beginning of my career .
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08-10-2008, 10:42 PM
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Re: What is this?
I'm also going on some ridealongs and one thing I have noticed that you can't learn in a classroom is how to communicate with the client. That is an important aspect of the job and one I'm going to struggle with in the beginning of my career .
David, sounds like you have a plan and are being realistic.
A big part of learning is admitting your weaknesses.
I am definitely not a public speaker and tend to trip and stumble when in a group but in the one on one situation with just the client and I, things are much more relaxed and easier but I can remember being in your shoes many years ago.
The more confident you are in your knowledge of the nuts and bolts of the house, the better your communication skills will be with the customer.
One word of advice, don't B/S your way through something, be honest and tell the client that you will have to get back with them on xyz after you do some research or refer them to the appropriate specialist.
NOBODY is an expert in everything, remember we are generalist and don't be afraid to ask for help.
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08-11-2008, 05:49 AM
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Re: What is this?
Ah ok, so youre still doing mocks with several inspectors at a time then? I remember being in class doing the mocks and we were running into each other too. I have just been doing mocks on friends houses now.
The ride alongs are great too. Unfortunately I have only been on one so far and the client was not there. I wanted to see how the inspector interacted with the client. Im the same way with the communication skills as you. I still need alot of work in that area
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08-11-2008, 11:22 AM
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Re: What is this?
I also joined a local HI association. Just trying to learn all I can.
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08-11-2008, 12:38 PM
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Re: What is this?
David,
It appears to be a termite colony elimination system installed by the pest control provider by the association maintaining the common areas of the complex. Dow Chemical produces one that is called Sentricon and the units are a bright green.
Gene Autore
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08-11-2008, 12:57 PM
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Re: What is this?
Originally Posted by Gene Autore
David,
It appears to be a termite colony elimination system installed by the pest control provider by the association maintaining the common areas of the complex. Dow Chemical produces one that is called Sentricon and the units are a bright green.
Gene Autore
Norwalk, CT
Gene,
First, welcome to THE inspector's forum.
Next, though, allow me to point out some 'poor choice wording' in the above.
It appears to be a termite colony elimination system
It does? "ELIMINATION system". Really? They can do that? I believe that is their *goal*, but to actually call it that? In Florida, that would mean that if you did no kill even one termite from that colony, you would be committing a fraudulent act for saying you could do that.
If Florida, if you say you can "eliminate" the colony, you either need to be able to do just that, or, have deep enough pockets to pay for all subsequent damage to any and all buildings caused by any termite(s) from that colony or other colonies in the same area, after all, you did not state "which colony" you were eliminating.
installed by the pest control provider by the association maintaining the common areas of the complex.
You know that? You know that the owner of the townhouse did not have that done themselves? Wow.
Dow Chemical produces one that is called Sentricon and the units are a bright green.
I always thought they were a dark green.  Guess it's the way we all see colors slightly differently.
By the way ... your posts will be easier to read if you do not bold and italic all of them.
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08-11-2008, 01:08 PM
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Re: What is this?
Not my words Jerry, see below. A homeowner can't purchase the Dow units. Of course, you being the expert must know that so I'm going to assume that you are just being a smart ass.
Sentricon - Colony Elimination System
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08-11-2008, 01:11 PM
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Re: What is this?
David,
I am continuely reminded that I've never posted anything so here goes. Yes I beleive as well the item is a termite trap. First view was of a pop-up sprinkler.
I suspect one reason I've never posted is that nearly every news letter clarifies something for me.
I know how you feel with the one on one with your client. My first inspection I could barely talk. Wasn't spitting cotton but close.
Youv'e already received the best tip. Honesty at all times.
Good luck and be safe. (an old retired cop)
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08-11-2008, 01:18 PM
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Re: What is this?
Originally Posted by Gene Autore
A homeowner can't purchase the Dow units.
I KNOW THE HOMEOWNER CANNOT PURCHASE CERTAIN PEST CONTROL SYSTEMS, HOWEVER A HOMEOWNER CAN HIRE A PEST CONTROL COMPANY TO INSTALL THOSE UNITS.
Of course, you being the expert must know that so I'm going to assume that you are just being a smart ass.
NOPE, NOT BEING A "SMART ASS", JUST POINTING OUT TO THOSE WHO WISH TO READ AND NOT TYPE IN ALL BOLD AND ITALICS THAT HOMEOWNERS DO NOT HAVE TO RELY ON THEIR ASSOCIATIONS TO PAY TO HAVE PEST CONTROL SYSTEMS INSTALLED.
By the way, there really is no need to type in all bold, all italics, or even all caps as I did above, unless you think doing so makes you an expert and that all bold and all italics make your post more more meaningful. Which it does not, and which is also why I switched back to normal size type, not all caps, not all bold, and not all italics.
Usually, those who come here typing in all bold, all caps, all italics think they know more than we do, but, after finding out they do not, they leave ... taking their all bold, all italics, all caps, etc. with them.
We learn from each other here. Bold, italics, caps, color, etc., are used for highlighting purposes, just common courtesy.
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08-11-2008, 01:37 PM
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