Results 1 to 12 of 12
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Iron Mountain, MI
    Posts
    41

    Default Pre-Fab Fireplace

    Hi:

    This fireplace was retrofitted into a mobile home.

    My question is if the clearance to combnustibles is a problem. There is 6" clearance from the top of the fireplace opening to the wood paneling, and 4" at the sides. The fireplace opeing is less than 6sq.ft.
    No spec manual available.

    How would you report this?

    Thanks,
    Joe

    Similar Threads:
    ***IMPORTANT*** You Need To Register To View Images ***IMPORTANT*** You Need To Register To View Images
    2018 ASHI InspectionWorld

  2. #2
    James Duffin's Avatar
    James Duffin Guest

    Default Re: Pre-Fab Fireplace

    I would state what you saw...that the firebox opening is too close to combustible materials and that the fireplace needs to be repaired so it is installed per the manufactures installation instructions.


  3. #3
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Southwest US
    Posts
    585

    Default Re: Pre-Fab Fireplace

    Aren't only certain prefab fireplaces rated for mobile home use?


  4. #4
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Twin Cities, Minnesota
    Posts
    150

    Default Re: Pre-Fab Fireplace

    Is that real brick in the hearth or some other material (...that might be combustible)?

    -Jon
    Errickson Home Inspections, LLC
    http://www.erricksonhomeinspections.com

  5. #5
    mike huntzinger's Avatar
    mike huntzinger Guest

    Default Re: Pre-Fab Fireplace

    with mobile home you have to have outside air


  6. #6
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Iron Mountain, MI
    Posts
    41

    Default Re: Pre-Fab Fireplace

    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Errickson View Post
    Is that real brick in the hearth or some other material (...that might be combustible)?
    It's a metal liner at the sides, and the back is some sort of faux-brick panel that had a crack.


  7. #7
    jeremy larson's Avatar
    jeremy larson Guest

    Default Re: Pre-Fab Fireplace

    Hard to know with out the manual. Would need to know what is the unit listed for and is it even listed to be installed in a mobile home. I dont believe all of them are. I would also check the sq. footage of the room it was in. May not even be large enough, square footage wise for a wood appliance unless listed for such.


  8. #8
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Snowbird (this means I'm retired and migrate between locations), FL/MI
    Posts
    4,086

    Default Re: Pre-Fab Fireplace

    I think such a unit with screen/curtain would require a proper hearth, and distance from combustible floor covering, not just an asbestos pad. That would include ratios (width) to the firebox opening. Not sure about the projection and distance for those brackets for the faux mantel shelf.

    I have never seen such in a manufactured home, especially not one pre-76. A wood stove, bolted to the floor, a gas log with glass doors, but not an insert or manufactured wood burning fireplace.

    No grate. Lower right front looks warped. I don't recognize this, doesn't seem right but my brain is tired. You say there is a crack in the panel at the back of the firebox.

    Property potentially changing hands, and two concerns anyway, reason enough to defer to a fireplace and chimney professional. Should get a Level 2/II anyway with property changing hands. Let a specialist deal with it.

    Was there no identifying information on the unit itself?

    Last edited by H.G. Watson, Sr.; 10-20-2010 at 10:24 PM.

  9. #9
    chuck altvater's Avatar
    chuck altvater Guest

    Default Re: Pre-Fab Fireplace

    First, does the data plate state that the Fireplace is approved by HUD for use in a mobile home?

    What do the manufacturer's instructions say about clearances to combustibles? You need to follow that. If the homeowner doesn't have the instructions, you need to download another copy so you can accurately report if the combustibles are too close, otherwise you cal back on NFPA 211. It states that "woodwork, such as wood trim, mantels and other combustible material, shall not be placed within 6 in of a fireplace opening." and "Combustible material above and projecting more than 1 1/2 in from a fireplace opening shall not be placed less than 12 in form the top of the fireplace opening.

    The second part is moot if it isn't approved for use in a mobile home.


  10. #10
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Maryland
    Posts
    2,776

    Default Re: Pre-Fab Fireplace

    Quote Originally Posted by James Duffin View Post
    I would state what you saw...that the firebox opening is too close to combustible materials and that the fireplace needs to be repaired so it is installed per the manufactures installation instructions.
    How can you say " needs to be repaired so it is installed per the manufactures installation instructions " when you do not have or know what they are?

    You might say that " The manufactures installation instructions should be obtained and the installation method verified for correctness......"


  11. #11
    Bruce Adams's Avatar
    Bruce Adams Guest

    Default Re: Pre-Fab Fireplace

    Joe
    This appears to be a Zero clearance fireplace That you say the rear fire block is cracked so it needs replaced. So you know it needs repairs So refer it to a Certified Chimney sweep. For repair and further evaluation.
    Check with manufacture of unit to see if it is manufactured for a Mobile home. And that it meets the clearances of the manufacture. Put the manufactures installation instructions in with your report. I have had chimney sweeps tell me that there is nothing wrong when the manufacture has said that it is not to be installed in a mobile home. This unit looks like it is large for a mobile home. I personally think that there is no safe fireplace in a mobile home. The first thing I say when I see a fireplace in a mobile home is have it cleaned and further Evaluated by a Certified Chimney Sweep.
    Bruce


  12. #12
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    NY Finger Lakes Area
    Posts
    206

    Default Re: Pre-Fab Fireplace

    .Pre-1976 mobile homes were not certified for wood-burning appliances of any kind. Units built after 1976, referred to as HUD code manufactured homes did allow for zero clearance wood burning units. They were not seen often, but gained in popularity in the mid '80s and early '90s. Most HUD code manufacturers offer them as options today, but gas units are far more popular.


Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •