Thread: I can't see

Looks backwards to me but my eyes are bad. What do you see guys

Do you mean the overlaps? Yeah, it looks backwards to me.

I guess it depends on the vantage point.

Are we looking up?

What exactly is this a picture of, and from where was it taken?

Yes , looking up from the fireplace.

Don't we want to see the male end down for solid fuels?

From this picture, it appears that the male ends are facing down, which is correct. The sheet metal screws shouldn't be penetrating the inner liner like that, however.

Here's a previous thread on the subject:

http://www.inspectionnews.net/home_i...male-down.html

Thanks John, Good link, and the rest of you guys of course

Wayne, Lou's question remains: what is this? Is it a factory built fireplace and if so, what make and model? If not, what size and materials into what sized fireplace opening. If you find metal pipe lining what was a masonry chimney, you have to ask yourself if it is listed and properly sized. Often plumbers, DIY'ers, and untrained hearth non-pros will line a fireplace for gas logs but size the vent off the GAMA charts in the gas code. This is an incorrect application. Those charts are for 'appliances' that are tested and listed to CAT I. A fireplace is not a listed appliance but a site constructed unlisted one. Therefore, regardless of gas logs or wood, the chimney must be sized per the code, which is based upon the opening of the fireplace. You will also see these homemade liners improperly connected and supported. At any rate a liner in a fireplace must be listed to UL 1777 with the full requisite insulation to meet the 2,100F rating, which means insulation per the listing. Naked liners are not allowed to reline an open hearth fireplace. You can have naked aluminum liners to listed direct vent gas appliances because they have been tested and listed that way and cannot burn wood.

HTH

Bob, yes factory built fireplace, did not get the model#, oops.
Open face
It was open from the attic down to the top of the unit which was covered with insulation that fell down there.
Two story center hall colonial
wood chase
Put in the report that no firestop or sheild was installed and insulation should be removed so a proper inspection by a licensed Fireplace speciaist could be performed.
Wayne

Wayne, not everything in a home inspection may result in life or death. This discovery in the attic is one that could. Good pickup!

Thanks Bob, But it was like Ducks in a barrel.
Tried to get the broker to jump in there but no luck.