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    Can't we all just get along

    As far as the people around the world hating us. Really. What planet do you folks live on. I have been all over. I did not see that. Sure there are folks that don't like us or the past President. There are also folks that love us and also look at our past President in the fact that he had to make some serious decisions on the scope of what was taking place.

    Do any of you really think that you, all by yourselves, could have done any better when the entire government of the United States could not get it right???????????????????????????????????????????? Folks, the ENTIRE government. And how about the rest of the goverments of the world and their part in this economy. Yes folks. THE WORLD

    Do you really feel so badly about the US governemnt. The people that were hired by our vote (whether you folks did or not the vote got them in, all of them. They are all responcible. They all had part in it. *ALL HAD PART IN IT, BOTH SIDES*. We all had part in it. Are we all Scum.

    The life most of you lead over the past couple decades had part in it. Are you all scum.

    Oh yeah, I would like to see any of you spend six months as President of the greatest, wealthiest , most pwerful nation on earth and I would like to see how you come out. Have you not seen what that job does to a man. Give the folks in the high offices a little bit of a break. Some one said somwhere about the amount of time off Bush or any President had in an 8 year term. Folks. The President does not get a day off in his entire term. There is no such thing as a day off as President of the United States. How would any of you like to work 365 days a year for 8 years.

    Things that have been done around the world are just that. Things done. Time to move on and give each other a big hug. The world is not going anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Menelly View Post

    Can't we all just get along

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    One thing. I could use a few more phone calls for work. Send them this way if you would be so kind

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    Quote Originally Posted by fritzkelly View Post
    Actually Richard, as I recall it was Hillary Clinton. But maybe in your mind she is far right.
    Yes Fritz. She would be included in "those running against him" although I'm not so sure she used the actual word. Look, it really doesn't matter. I'm not an automatic Democrat, but I will admit I really like this guy and his family. I'm hoping he can turn things around for EVERYBODY! I do expect some disappointment.

    This thread started with John taking his family to see the train go by. "Cool", would have been sufficient comment to that instead of the resulting political sarcasm, from both sides (including me).

    We braved the cold today to see our new prez. This was at Claymont station in Delaware.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Menelly View Post
    Can't we all just get along

    As far as the people around the world hating us. Really. What planet do you folks live on. I have been all over. I did not see that. Sure there are folks that don't like us or the past President. There are also folks that love us and also look at our past President in the fact that he had to make some serious decisions on the scope of what was taking place.

    Do any of you really think that you, all by yourselves, could have done any better when the entire government of the United States could not get it right???????????????????????????????????????????? Folks, the ENTIRE government. And how about the rest of the goverments of the world and their part in this economy. Yes folks. THE WORLD

    Do you really feel so badly about the US governemnt. The people that were hired by our vote (whether you folks did or not the vote got them in, all of them. They are all responcible. They all had part in it. *ALL HAD PART IN IT, BOTH SIDES*. We all had part in it. Are we all Scum.

    The life most of you lead over the past couple decades had part in it. Are you all scum.

    Oh yeah, I would like to see any of you spend six months as President of the greatest, wealthiest , most powerful nation on earth and I would like to see how you come out. Have you not seen what that job does to a man. Give the folks in the high offices a little bit of a break. Some one said somewhere about the amount of time off Bush or any President had in an 8 year term. Folks. The President does not get a day off in his entire term. There is no such thing as a day off as President of the United States. How would any of you like to work 365 days a year for 8 years.

    Things that have been done around the world are just that. Things done. Time to move on and give each other a big hug. The world is not going anywhere.

    One thing. I could use a few more phone calls for work. Send them this way if you would be so kind
    Relax Ted... your talking to brick walls...
    You see things one way and others see things another.

    As far as what the rest of the world thinks of us... L.O.L. Thats like trying to get on the good side of a real estate agent...L.O.L.

    Thats a joke... They can all go jump off a tall cliff......

    Did any of you ever give some money back to a buyer just to shut them up? If so did they love after that...

    What the rest of the world thinks...L.O.L.

    You do what you think is right. Not what you think others want you to do just to get them to like you...

    All of you who hate President Bush... So what... You don't think he give a rat $#& do you... He did what he thought was right... get over it..L.O.L.
    When ever i see some one express that kind of hate... i get all goose bumps. don't you see that bitterness is from your heart? and its killing you... life is to short. do what you will. but i get to L.O.L. at you!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Bibler View Post
    get over it..L.O.L.
    That is good advice for you to take before responding to posts you do not like ... read them, grin and bear it, then "get over it" ...

    We expect you to follow your own advice, meaning we will not see any more negative posts here from you ... correct?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Peck View Post
    That is good advice for you to take before responding to posts you do not like ... read them, grin and bear it, then "get over it" ...

    We expect you to follow your own advice, meaning we will not see any more negative posts here from you ... correct?

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    Here's a pretty good article from the Washington desk of the major German magazine Der Spiegel -

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Peck View Post
    That is good advice for you to take before responding to posts you do not like ... read them, grin and bear it, then "get over it" ...

    We expect you to follow your own advice, meaning we will not see any more negative posts here from you ... correct?

    Jerry its one thing to say or express one point of view

    But for one to spew out hate from the heart... Man thats sick..

    I'm Probably one of the happiest guys on this board...

    When Aaron starts in with the hate from his heart... I L.O.L. because thats what he want me to do. He just speaks that for the shock of it. and if thats what is whats in his heart dang thats sad...
    I don't think i have every been around some one in a more bitter state of mind... Either he is sick and needs to see a doc.
    Or he is just messing around.

    Aaron you are a very smart Man i can see that from your post... but you also get pissy a lot of the time... Do you have any holes in the walls or doors of your home? What do they call the anger management

    Love ya bub

    Always my Best

    Ron

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    Ron

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    Aaron, given our political history locally, it is hard for me to support any politician from my home state let alone home town. I'm sure many of you have been getting a good laugh out of our governor lately. By the way I pegged him as a scumbag when I ran into him a few years ago.
    GW didn't or couldn't have done it alone, all by himself ... blah, blah, blah. Bush supporters love to use that as a defense. In reality it is no defense at all. He was the leader and any problems go back to him in the end. If you don't believe that try being a Boss for a while working for clients. You'll soon come to see how true it is.
    I don't blame it all on Bush, many were involved. As any management school will teach you, 'the boss sets the tone' for the company. In this case, Cheney and all of GH Bush' exCIA spooks set the tone. We will be paying for their right wing supremacist ideals for years.
    Yes the president works hard but please don't try to piss on my head about how he doesn't get a vacation day.
    When people talk about making the 'RIGHT' decision. I get scared. As I have mentioned before, the problem with having to be 'Right' is that it leaves no room to be wrong. The ideal of being Right was clearly evidenced throughout the 8 year reign.
    I'm half an idiot and I knew that Saddam didn't have WMD's
    Afghanistan, How well did that go for the Russians and British?
    Obama isn't going to solve all the problems (or any) anytime soon. This mess is going to take a while. I will gladly bash him too WHEN it is warranted.
    I think part of our foreign policy problem is that often times we attempt to create democracy. I remember when Irag was rolling up, GW and the talking heads stated 'a few years', what a laugh. It has taken us 300 years to achieve the democracy we have today. Each successive generation of citizens evolving closer and closer to what we have today.
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    HE HAS IT RIGHT

    *** GM announced yesterday that it would probably run out of money in
    March. As to a bailout, we turn to a letter that appeared last week in the
    Manufacturing and Technology Journal. It is from a man who seems to have
    grease under his nails and a brain under his hat. Greg Knox, president of
    Knox Machinery in Franklin, Ohio, explains why he is not in favor of a
    bail out for Detroit.

    "Politicians and Management of the Big 3 are both infected with the same
    entitlement mentality that has spread like cancerous germs in UAW halls
    for the last countless decades, and whose plague is now sweeping this
    nation, awaiting our new President Obama, to wave his magic
    wand and make all our problems go away, while at the same time allowing
    our once great nation to keep 'living the dream'... Believe me folks, The
    dream is over!

    "This dream where we can ignore the consumer for years while management
    myopically focuses on its personal rewards packages at the same time that
    our factories have been filled with the worlds most overpaid, arrogant,
    ignorant and laziest entitlement minded 'laborers' without paying the
    price for these atrocities...this dream where you still think the masses
    will line up to buy our products for ever and ever.

    "Don't even think about telling me I'm wrong. Don't accuse me of not
    knowing of what I speak. I have called on Ford, GM, Chrysler, TRW, Delphi,
    Kelsey Hayes, American Axle and countless other automotive OEM's
    throughout the Midwest during the past 30 years and what I've seen over
    those years in these union shops can only be described as disgusting. Troy
    Clarke, President of General Motors North America, states: 'There is
    widespread sentiment throughout this country, and our government, and
    especially via the news media, that the current crisis is completely the
    result of bad management which it certainly is not.'

    "You're right Mr. Clarke, it's not JUST management...how about the
    electricians who walk around the plants like lords in feudal times, making
    people wait on them for countless hours while they drag ass...so they can
    come in on the weekend and make double and triple time...for a job they
    easily could have done within their normal 40 hour work week. How about
    the line workers who threaten newbies with all kinds of scare
    tactics...for putting out too many parts on a shift...and for being too
    productive (We certainly must not expose those lazy bums who have been
    getting overpaid for decades for their horrific underproduction, must
    we?!?)


    "Do you folks really not know about this stuff?!? How about this great
    sentiment abridged from Mr. Clarke's sad plea: 'over the last few years
    ...we have closed the quality and efficiency gaps with our competitors.'
    What the hell has Detroit been doing for the last 40 years?!? Did we
    really JUST wake up to the gaps in quality and efficiency between us and
    them? The K car vs. the Accord? The Pinto vs. the Civic?!? Do I need to go
    on? What a joke!

    "We are living through the inevitable outcome of the actions of the United
    States auto industry for decades. It's time to pay for your sins,
    Detroit.

    "I attended an economic summit last week where brilliant economist, Alan
    Beaulieu, from the Institute of Trend Research, surprised the crowd when
    he said he would not have given the banks a penny of 'bailout money'.
    'Yes,' he said, 'this would cause short term problems,' but despite what
    people like politicians and corporate magnates would have us believe, the
    sun would in fact rise the next day... and the following very important
    thing would happen...where there had been greedy and sloppy banks, new
    efficient ones would pop up...that is how a free market system works...it
    does work...if we would only let it work..."

    "But for some nondescript reason we are now deciding that the rest of the
    world is right and that capitalism doesn't work - that we need the
    government to step in and 'save us"'...Save us my ass. Hell - we're
    nationalizing...and unfortunately too many of our once fine nation's
    citizens don't even have a clue that this is what is really
    happening...But, they sure can tell you the stats on their favorite sports
    teams...yeah - THAT'S really important, isn't it...

    "Does it ever occur to ANYONE that the "competition" has been producing
    vehicles, EXTREMELY PROFITABLY, for decades in this country?... How can
    that be??? Let's see... Fuel efficient... Listening to customers...
    Investing in the proper tooling and automation for the long haul...

    "Not being too complacent or arrogant to listen to Dr. W. Edwards Deming
    four decades ago when he taught that by adopting appropriate principles of
    management, organizations could increase quality and simultaneously reduce
    costs. Ever increased productivity through quality and intelligent
    planning... Treating vendors like strategic partners, rather than like
    'the enemy'... Efficient front and back offices... Non union
    environment...

    "Again, I could go on and on, but I really wouldn't be telling anyone
    anything they really don't already know down deep in their hearts. I have
    six children, so I am not unfamiliar with the concept of wanting someone
    to bail you out of a mess that you have gotten yourself into - my children
    do this on a weekly, if not daily basis, as I did when I was their age. I
    do for them what my parents did for me (one of their greatest gifts, by
    the way) - I make them stand on their own two feet and accept the
    consequences of their actions and work through it. Radical concept, huh...
    Am I there for them in the wings? Of course - but only until such time as
    they need to be fully on their own as adults.

    "I don't want to oversimplify a complex situation, but there certainly are
    unmistakable parallels here between the proper role of parenting and
    government. Detroit and the United States need to pay for their sins. Bad
    news people - it's coming whether we like it or not. The newly elected
    president really doesn't have a magic wand big enough to 'make it all go
    away.' I laughed as I heard Obama 'reeling it back in' almost immediately
    after the final vote count was tallied...'we really might not do it in a
    year...or in four...' Where the Hell was that kind of talk when he was
    RUNNING for office.

    "Stop trying to put off the inevitable folks ... That house in Florida
    really isn't worth $750,000... People who jump across a border really
    don't deserve free health care benefits... That job driving that forklift
    for the Big 3 really isn't worth $85,000 a year...

    "That couple whose combined income is less than $50,000 really shouldn't
    be living in that $485,000 home... Let the market correct itself folks -
    it will. Yes it will be painful, but it's gonna' be painful either way,
    and the bright side of my proposal is that on the other side of it all, is
    a nation that appreciates what it has...and doesn't live beyond its
    means...and gets back to basics...and redevelops the patriotic work ethic
    that made it the greatest nation in the history of the world...and
    probably turns back to God.

    "Sorry - don't cut my head off, I'm just the messenger sharing with you
    the 'bad news'. I hope you take it to heart.

    "Gregory J. Knox, President, Knox Machinery, Inc. Franklin, Ohio"

    Jerry McCarthy
    Building Code/ Construction Consultant

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    Let the car companies all go to hell as far as I'm concerned. We can learn to live with our cars and make them last like they have to down in Cuba.



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    I couldn't agree more with the guy if I was on my knees in front of him.

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    Another good thread!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benjamin Thompson View Post
    Another good thread!

    Unfortunately the thread took place in 2009. But he will win again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by John Ghent View Post
    Unfortunately the thread took place in 2009. But he will win again.
    I hope not. The campaigner in chief has derailed the country and divided it like no one before him.


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