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    Default Who is H. G. Watson Sr ?

    Over the past week or so my curiosity has been peaked with the true identity of HG Watson Sr. He or she does not exist outside of this discussion board, I'm starting to think that HG is the alter ego of a troubled person.

    Any thoughts?

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    Here, here

    Sorry HG who ever you are but you are an impostor. I have not doubted that since day one. . An Attorney .....maybe.

    An inspector or x inspector or x city/county inspector, retired what ever. You are not what you are or say you maybe or what you maybe. I am usually the best at a face to face but I do not have a face to look at while you are talking. Give me one minute face to face and I will tell you things about yourself that you do not even you knows about.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fritzkelly View Post
    There's an "ignore" button that helps quite a bit.
    True, but if I keep using it I will see very few post!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Menelly View Post
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    Scott

    Why are you always twisting your posts and stirring up trouble? You haven't helped anyone here ever since you posted. Go complain about Nachi or some other make belief issues you have!

    I am going to put you on my ignore list because you are a hypocrite! Who cares who Mr. Watson is, frankly I enjoy his post much more than yours!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymond Wand View Post
    Scott

    Why are you always twisting your posts and stirring up trouble? You haven't helped anyone here ever since you posted. Go complain about Nachi or some other make belief issues you have!

    I am going to put you on my ignore list because you are a hypocrite! Who cares who Mr. Watson is, frankly I enjoy his post much more than yours!
    WOW. I have just recently started posting, but I have visited this board nearly everyday for the past eight months.
    As an outsider looking in (I am not an inspector) I have always found Scott to be one of the more congenial posters here.

    As for H.G. I always catch myself reading his post in a british accent.


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    Raymond,

    As You are Relatively New to Inspector News perhaps you have not benefited from Mr. Patterson's extensive, knowledgeable and beneficial input, as many of others have.

    That said We were most patience with you and your Venting ( ie Pee & Moan ) start with us concerning inter-NACO and the perceived wrongs alleged by yourself.
    *Long Winded Rants .

    Scott asked a Question that appears No One can or Will answer.

    Perhaps Calmer thoughts for all would be appropriate.
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    Its really none of Scotts business, given that Scott suggested Mr. Watson may be troubled person? Thats real nice and its irrelevant in the scheme of things and was unprofessional and uncalled for. What goes around comes around.

    Number of posts and length of time here are moot given that we are all contributors!

    Over the past week or so my curiosity has been peaked with the true identity of HG Watson Sr. He or she does not exist outside of this discussion board, I'm starting to think that HG is the alter ego of a troubled person.



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    Hi all, I can only see Ray's post when you "quote" them. He is on my ignore list.

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    Aw this is like a cute little disfunctional family


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    Someone's selective memory (or other motive) kicking in again. As Arte (or was it Arty) Johnson would say: "verrrrry interesting!"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Patterson View Post
    Over the past week or so my curiosity has been peaked with the true identity of (XYZ) I'm starting to think that (XYZ) is the alter ego of a troubled person.

    Any thoughts?
    You can substitute a great many names from this anonymous BB over the years as phantom posters. Not real hard to find, either.

    I don't know if HG is real or not, but frankly, there are many more obvious "nom de plumes" than HG on this board.

    Maybe if HG takes Scott's favorite test (XHIE), they will get along fine.

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    Maybe he is related Ma Ma Mount?


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    I wonder how many people have me on there ignore button?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Mount View Post
    I wonder how many people have me on there ignore button?
    It's starting to look like I might be the only one that does not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Harris View Post
    It's starting to look like I might be the only one that does not.
    Guess there are at least two of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Patterson View Post
    Over the past week or so my curiosity has been peaked...
    Piqued. In my not so humble opinion, if one is going to question another's veracity, it should be spelled correctly.

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    One problem here is that inspectors - even very experienced inspectors - occasionally encounter conditions new to them, if for no other reason than because new building products and techniques are constantly being introduced.

    The nature of our business is we need answers to these questions quickly - almost immediately in some cases - and if we can't find quick answers by Internet research, contacting manufacturers and/or asking personal contacts we feel are likely to have the answers, virtually the only other resource for obtaining them quickly is to post our question on one of three home inspection oriented discussion boards and ask our peers in the hope that somebody has that answer.

    Anyone who does this, or watches others do it, quickly learns that some of the answers they receive are more accurate or useful than others, that some posters are more likely to provide accurate and useful answers than others, and that some posters are likely to have useful answers to a wide range of questions, while others have highly specialized knowledge about particular topics and likely to be less accurate or even completely wrong when they stray outside these areas of expertise.

    If we were discussing politics or sports, this wouldn't much matter (except to egomaniacs and those placing bets on the game), unfortunately in our business inaccurate information can have severe economic and legal consequences.

    For this reason the posters who are most useful are often posters who are referencing objective external sources for their opinions: code cites, industry standards, manufacturers installation instructions, and the like - their understanding or interpretation of the sources may still be incomplete or inaccurate, but (especially if the information cited is available on the net) it's possible to quickly perform at least some of the additional research needed to determine the accuracy of the opinions we are reading.

    Both East Coast Jerry and HGW are examples of posters were frequently cite such external support for their opinions (though as recent discussion demonstrates, you can sometimes end up with dueling interpretations of the same objective source), and that means those opinions are likely to be taken more seriously than less well supported opinion.

    However for precisely that reason - other inspectors are more likely to assume the accuracy of such opinion, and rely upon it in their own inspection and reporting - it seems to me that such posters by virtue of the fact that they are inherently claiming a higher degree of expertise and a greater degree of objective support for their opinions have increased responsibility to make their credentials and other bona fides publicly available.

    This is a moral responsibility, not a legal one, it's one that posters are free to knowledge and act upon, or not.

    OTOH, in my experience whenever someone shows up at any sort of site where the posters exchange opinion and advice about things that matter in a concrete and immediate ways, and they choose to inherently assume the role of guru, their opinions should be subject to extreme (if polite) skepticism until they've either established an extensive enough posting record so that it's possible to accurately assess their actual expertise in each area of subject matter they address, or they are willing to publicly present their credentials to comment on each of these areas, and they have no reason to complain if other posters demand that they do so, or question their expertise until they do.

    YMMV.

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    There are many posters who can't fill out the profile, and that in itself should be required.

    It never ceases to amaze me the elder inspectors here who come of repeatedly as so called experts but intwine themselves with trying to prove who is right. As we have seen before as with roof starter strips no one was able to prove rightness over wrongness, and therein lies the problem, no one learns anything.

    In this business educated guesses are sometimes the only thing we can rely on and as is the case inspectors don't always see the same thing twice given that necessity is the mother of invention in many homes we have the opportunity to inspect.

    The ego's here are incredible and its easy to figure out the ego's that constantly need to be stroked but make no mistake about it as implied by one, that when one has over a thousand of posts that they have not added anything is just plain ignorance and spiteful.

    I hate hypocrites!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymond Wand View Post
    In this business educated guesses are sometimes the only thing we can rely on and as is the case inspectors don't always see the same thing twice given that necessity is the mother of invention in many homes we have the opportunity to inspect.
    And Frank Zappa's the father!

    Now seriously Raymond. If you are referring to Mr. Patterson in you ramble type post, I disagree.

    I have 'known' Scott (never met him but have 'discussions' on the net) for over 10 years.
    His reputation and integrity along with his willingness to further the profession and raise the bar for all home inspectors goes without question.

    You may be able to learn how to conduct yourself in a more suited manner just by watching him.

    His questioning of someones identity is not unusual; seems many people have come on this and other boards as impostors; is H.G. one of them, I don't know and I really don't care. But Scott has every right to question it.

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    Darren save me the lecture, and get your facts straight. Mr. Patterson wrongfully accused me of twisting every post I have ever made here as non helpful. That is an outright lie and a sad state of affairs for someone as professional as you claim Mr. Patterson to be.

    Yet here he is lecturing and pontificating as to his ability to set a double standard because he didn't like a post he had no obligation to read.

    Now if you think being attacked with reckless comments is professional perhaps you need to take an ethics course.

    Good day.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Patterson View Post
    Over the past week or so my curiosity has been peaked with the true identity of HG Watson Sr. He or she does not exist outside of this discussion board, I'm starting to think that HG is the alter ego of a troubled person.

    Any thoughts?
    SP: You are starting to think like I do. Be careful . . .


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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymond Wand View Post
    Darren save me the lecture, and get your facts straight. Mr. Patterson wrongfully accused me of twisting every post I have ever made here as non helpful. That is an outright lie and a sad state of affairs for someone as professional as you claim Mr. Patterson to be.

    Yet here he is lecturing and pontificating as to his ability to set a double standard because he didn't like a post he had no obligation to read.

    Now if you think being attacked with reckless comments is professional perhaps you need to take an ethics course.

    Good day.
    Ray

    Not everyone is picking on you or calling you a liar. The world is not out to get you.

    If someone calls you a liar ... so what. If someone is questioning the other ... so what.

    HG, Scott P, Jerry P, Raymond Wand, who cares. A man questioned another because of his chosen (making it appear so) expertise in everything and a collector of all info in every subject matter and can find info about anything or anyone at anytime in minutes.

    What seems to be the problem Ray.

    Lighten up a little. I sound like a grumpy older fart half the time on here on purpose, for effect, for fun. In real life I am anything but. On here I state some opinion and stretch it sometimes to get others opinions. So what.

    Lifes to short.


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    Isn't Raymond supposed to be going into hibernation for about 6 months or so?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Stanley View Post
    Isn't Raymond supposed to be going into hibernation for about 6 months or so?
    RS: Watch out ... he may be migrating to CC for "snowbird" status for the winter.


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    For the record "fritzkelly" no tail.

    Have been active despite late seasonal migration.

    Some folks (such as yourself) can't use a profile link or PM. SP knows, has an axe to grind and a personal agenda. Has something to do with his wannabe status as an EW, JP has a similar issue, amongst (many) others.

    I've been "inspecting", advising long before some of these guys even knew what an "inspection" or a report was

    Green eyed monsters again. Degree, Professor, and "profession" envy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by H.G. Watson, Sr. View Post
    For the record "fritzkelly" no tail.

    Have been active despite late seasonal migration.

    Some folks (such as yourself) can't use a profile link or PM. SP knows, has an axe to grind and a personal agenda. Has something to do with his wannabe status as an EW, JP has a similar issue, amongst (many) others.

    I've been "inspecting", advising long before some of these guys even knew what an "inspection" or a report was

    Green eyed monsters again. Degree, Professor, and "profession" envy.
    Hey, H.G., I have no axe to grind on my end I just like to deal with honest and truthful individuals who have nothing to hide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Patterson View Post
    Hey, H.G., I have no axe to grind on my end I just like to deal with honest and truthful individuals who have nothing to hide.
    SP: So then, if you know who HG is, why aren't you forthcoming with that information?


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    Quote Originally Posted by A.D. Miller View Post
    SP: So then, if you know who HG is, why aren't you forthcoming with that information?
    I really don't know who or what it is? I kind of recognize the writing style, but the person I'm thinking about would not be scared to use their given name. I guess we could get Brian to look up the IP address for HG to see if it matches anyone on IN.

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    I do use my legal & professional name. My profile is as complete as it need be. I have retired completely from both teaching and professional activies for health reasons.

    Several strings, and numerous posts were removed by Brian after a series of combative and negative post activity by several (self not excluded) last spring.

    SP has abused previous access to my redacted CV. Green eyed monster over experienced P.E. trumping H.I. in the courts perhaps driving childish harassing and stalking behavior, don't know. Feigned ignorance for sure.

    Much ado about nothing. Try reading a profile.


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    Quote Originally Posted by H.G. Watson, Sr. View Post
    I do use my legal & professional name. My profile is as complete as it need be. I have retired completely from both teaching and professional activies for health reasons.

    Several strings, and numerous posts were removed by Brian after a series of combative and negative post activity by several (self not excluded) last spring.

    SP has abused previous access to my redacted CV. Green eyed monster over experienced P.E. trumping H.I. in the courts perhaps driving childish harassing and stalking behavior, don't know. Feigned ignorance for sure.

    Much ado about nothing. Try reading a profile.
    Hi HG, please cite the time and place that I have abused you or your CV. Frankly, I can't ever recall even seeing your CV.

    I love working with PE's on cases, usually we get along well and do the job we were hired to do. If you knew me, you would know that I do not have an ego that needs stroking. I'm a simple country boy that just works hard and completes the task at hand.

    If you are so famous and well known in the world as you say you are then why do you not appear on any Internet search engines. I would think that a person with your education and knowledge base (although it does not show when you have a name calling post like this) would have a little bio or something that could be found. It is like you do no exist outside on Inspection News. Why is that?

    I would love to meet you, shake your hand, even buy you a cup of coffee. I'm sorry to hear that you have health problems that prohibit you from doing what you apparently have a passion for. Please understand that I have nothing against you, but I just have a difficult time believing that you are using your real name. But hey, a man is his word. So if you say that H.G. Watson, Sr. is your given name then all we can do is to trust what you say.

    I have read your profile, this is what you have posted:
    Biography:
    Does it matter that I have a lot of letters? Like P.E., Ph. D., etc.
    Location:
    Snowbird (this means I'm retired and migrate between locations), FL/MI
    Interests:
    Learning to hunt & peck on a keyboard after dictating and CADing with a VI
    Occupation:
    Retired and Prof. Emer.; finally (almost completely( 25+yrs Prof; 35+ yrs PE) after a few strokes


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    1. You'd have to know how to use a search engine to find items which are scanned but not with character recognition software to find historical items which are available on the www.

    2. You'd have to have access to databases which require a fee or subscription to find on the www, one has to access the database to search.

    3. I never had the need to advertise. People sought me out. My information was added/copied by others to various Expert Witness databases used by the legal community some kernels still exist, albeit incomplete or not entirely correct information, have long ago given up on finding every kernel and getting it either corrected or removed - occasionally someone still tries to contact via University and receive a 'canned response'.

    4. Published opinions/findings by the various Courts, several of which are not sealed and were published due to appellate and higher review, still exist, Federal case access requires PACER subscription.

    5. Government work - esp. Federal Agency work - individual cases, etc. you'd have to FOIA and would find it heavily redacted in certain cases, esp. OSHA investigations and accident/failure reconstructions, proprietary ifnormation, security, etc. review of records, liability, etc. has caused a lot of information freely accessible in the past (pre 9/11, pre "stalking", pre-"i.d. theft" issues) no longer carried or hosted on the www, or with limited access.

    6. Have been retired and emeritus status, School & University sites long since redacted information.

    7. The "internet" being (from my tenor) relatively a "new" thing, and having gone through a multitude of changes - older information previously hosted by entities no longer existing, having merged, etc., data bases available on line limited in format, age, etc. you won't find such references using short-cuts. Older boards, b.b.s. etc. I remember the days when one dialed up directly to a hosting service then accessed a particular subscribed network b.b.s. This goes back to the inception of the concept of "home inspection" and quite literally pre-dates "personal computers".

    8. You have, we have, your "memory issues" not withstanding, and no thank you.


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    my curiosity has been peaked
    Not sure if my curiosity is piqued, has peaked, or is just feeling pekid.
    Actually, I'm feeling rawther peckish at the moment. Tata

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    WOW, so much crap, so little time.
    There is a story where a puffed up chuckle berry has been, and a puffed out pissed at the world wanna berry meet at a toll bridge. Before the puffy berry can cross the bridge, he has to solve an impossible riddle.

    Or something like that.


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    HG: Give it up. Unless you are outright manufacturing or ashamed of your credentials, why not share them? After all, once you've removed that mask, no one will care if you are Bruce Wayne or Lana Turner. Until then it seems, they will not relent.


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    After being beatin up on the board, I will agree. I have a feeling its Harold.


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