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    On another thread there has been discussion about false identity, licensed or un-licensed inspectors, etc.

    At first I thought that the person questioning another's identity really needed to get a life, or just had too much time on their hands. Then we have a couple of false identity posters that everyone knows who they are, and just kind of ignore their posts.

    But I guess what got me thinking this time, was the response from the NC inspector that seems to not exist. His response was tacky to put it mildly. Here he is busted that his identity is false, so his response was F U. Nice!

    Now for Brian to verify identity and certifications of all the members here would be impractical, if not almost impossible. But we really should be able to know who we are talking to.

    I think someone a while back suggested using a credit card to sign up, and verify identity to use the forum. I don't know the logistics or costs of such an undertaking, but i do think it's a good idea. Even if it was a minimal $20/year to cover costs.

    Just my thoughts because I had too much time on my hands this afternoon.
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    Where do I sign up?

    I think it would be a great idea, and I'm sure Brian could use the extra money for web space and dirt bike supplies.

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    I'm in also. Good idea. great forum. Lets keep it that way!


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    How about a dime per post? First 1,000 free.

    Hey Rick...I just noticed your join date. How did you get that set back? I go back to January (maybe February), 2003. It bugged me a little when all the dates got changed last year. Do you have to suck up to Brian to get it changed...cos I can do that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Moore View Post
    How about a dime per post? First 1,000 free.

    Hey Rick...I just noticed your join date. How did you get that set back? I go back to January (maybe February), 2003. I bugged me a little when all the dates got changed last year. Do you have to suck up to Brian to get it changed...cos I can do that!
    ECJ would be broke!

    I'm in also.


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    Dang it, Jack. Get a job. You get time on your hands and want to spend my money.

    But, I agree it'd be a better site without certain people.

    Though a lot of the newer guys wouldn't be here if it cost. Some are stretching just to feed their family. Kinda like I was back in early 2002 when I joined.

    Sometimes, there's just certain pains in the ass we need to put up with. Ban someone and there's no easy way to keep them from coming back under another e-mail address and alias.

    And some are so passionate about their cause, they'd pay the fee and keep being a pain in the ass.

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    The only problem I see with the fee is that it will keep some new or prospective inspectors from signing up. Instead, you end up with a lot of lurkers in the shadows who may have worthwhile contributions that go unheard.


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    i just don't read the tirades. (Did I just contradict myself?)

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    Hey Jack, I recommend using a mind-set filter system in that one just ignores the morons and responds only to what they believe are legitimate posts from folks with more than a two digit IQ. Brian is not only a good fellow, but a long time friend of mine and he does supply one hellova channel for HI education. I believe I've made a few friends on his BB (perhaps I'm deluded?), but all in all there's allot of dam good info posted here by serious practitioners of the home inspection profession and I'm always willing to scrape it up, digest it, and hopefully give a little back.

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    The board has an Ignore feature that I have in use now for some posters. You guys should try it!

    And I was not busted....I never existed! Jack...if you need some work let me know. I turned down two cold calls today so I could fit in my regular customers.


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    Is using the IN private messaging system to send messages with foul language okay from people who are using false identities? Seems to me if the rules are to be applied equally members should be subject to warnings for using the private messaging containing undesirable language.

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    Hey Raymond....

    I hope you are not referring to me....you mean nothing to me!


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    No not you. From Harvey Hemplestern.

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    Thank you for the clarification. I'm harmless until attacked.


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    James

    I understand completely.

    Cheers,

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    James,
    When you start turning down jobs in Knoxville, I will be happy to fill in for you, otherwise, your job market really has no bearings on what I do here. But thannks anyway.

    Erby,
    Got a job thank you. This was just an afternoon off for me. I was wore out from the 10K SF house I did Thursday. A house that size may be a normal work day (days) for Jerry P., but it is not the normal for me.

    On topic of this thread. I wasn't considering banning anyone, it was just an idea to verify identity when someone signs up. My thought was your sign in name had to match the credit card name - simple as that.
    JF


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    This is a great board and I wouldn't have a problem supporting it annually. Making in exclusionary bothers me though. I do wonder sometimes though who the lurkers actually are and what their intent is. Some are innocent info seekers no doubt, others lawyers, ins agents, rat bast...?
    As far as guys claiming to be inspectors that aren't ... I think for those of us in the profession it is pretty easy to tell pretty quickly.
    Let's leave banning up to the administrator.

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    Marcus sounds like a rabble-rouser to me.

    All those in favor of voting him off of the island?

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    I personally like the board and think most of the guys on it are legitimate. I do think though, that if you are actually a trained and / or licensed inspector, you should only be allowed on using your actual identity, not a screen name or other made up name. I realize there are some states who do not license inspectors ( in Illinois we have to pass a state exam and be certfied by an accredited school ) so using your license number for verification may be difficult to do. I don't believe using a credit card for verification would do any more than prove identity and that you have a credit card. Maybe options of a home inspector business license, or state HI license, or some other proof you are a professional. Any other suggestions?


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    The info is second to none on this board, very many knowledgeable professionals. Its a pleasure to read the queries and answers. I never knew I didn't know so much. We also tend to police ourselves pretty well on this forum from what I have seen, and again that speaks to the professionalism of many of the posters who post under their real names.

    Of course we also owe Brian a thank you for putting up with the odd bump in the road.

    Bravo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymond Wand View Post
    Of course we also owe Brian a thank you for putting up with the odd bump in the road.
    obsequious - attempting to win favor from influential people by flatterybootlicking, fawning, sycophantic, toadyish
    insincere - lacking sincerity; "a charming but thoroughly insincere woman"; "their praise was extravagant and insincere"


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    Michael did I hit a nerve with you?

    Respect begets respect, try it you might find it enlightening!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymond Wand View Post
    Michael did I hit a nerve with you?

    Respect begets respect, try it you might find it enlightening!
    Respectfully Raymond, I submit respect is something you know nothing about.


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    Michael you continually display your lack of intelligence. I suggest if you wish to look inferiror then you go back to that other board where stupidity is a common trait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymond Wand View Post
    Michael you continually display your lack of intelligence. I suggest if you wish to look inferiror then you go back to that other board where stupidity is a common trait.
    My my my. I give you a month or less around here.


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    Michael

    We are all cognizant of the short comings within that other association and you should openly assure measures are taken amongst your members to rid yourselves of the yoke you all bare as a result of a few of your so called leaders who have readily displayed their lack of due process and legitimacy for the benefit of a few egos. Should your ego need to be stroked in the manner you are accustomed to then your obsequious needs will surely be more than fulfilled by your colleagues who you so readily align yourself with.

    Should you wish to learn a few things on proper governance of an organization then please listen to the wisdom of the wealth of info from senior members here who have aptly demonstrated their participation and collective experiences over the years from legitimate professional organizations.

    Savvy?

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    From a sign I saw once:

    " One need not blow out another mans candle to make theirs seem brighter"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Larson View Post
    My my my. I give you a month or less around here.
    Don't worry, Mike.

    Even here, people are not foolish enough to buy into that kind of garbage.


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    James and Michael

    Looks like you two have been proven wrong once again. I have been here for a long time!

    What will you do next now that your little game plan isn't panning out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymond Wand View Post
    I have been here for a long time!

    02-18-2008, 09:55 PM Date of Raymond's first post here.

    Just a little trouble with the truth. That was a few days after being booted from his former haunting grounds.


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    Michael,

    Wrong again I have been here since I believe 2003 or 2004 check the archives and make sure you post factual information buddy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymond Wand View Post
    Michael,

    Wrong again I have been here since I believe 2003 or 2004 check the archives and make sure you post factual information buddy!
    Your facts are usually wrong. Search your own archive pal!


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    Multi-pane Insulated Windows Raymond Wand February 24, 2002
    Michael I think you owe me an apology!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymond Wand View Post
    Multi-pane Insulated Windows Raymond Wand February 24, 2002
    Michael I think you owe me an apology!
    Do you promise to hold your breath till I give it?


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    Michael

    I know its difficult for you to deal with reality but maybe you should try because you're not proving much with your inane posts! You might be able to falsify info on that other board but no one buys it here.

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    Speaking of buying, just what are you selling here?


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    Now that is funny considering that other association is nothing but a vendor machine.

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    Brain needs to add another section called "pissing match".

    Back to topic I do feel people coming under assumed name should re-sign under there real name.

    OK back to bashing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Schulz View Post
    Back to topic I do feel people coming under assumed name should re-sign under there real name.

    Here is Harvey's story, it appears that no good deed goes unpunished .


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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Burkeson View Post
    Here is Harvey's story, it appears that no good deed goes unpunished .
    So he forgot his Other Assumed Name? and was forced to make-up the current assumed name to do a drive by & is now stuck with his current assumed name.

    Thanks for clearing that up.

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    Likely story given the author is known for approving of fabricating evidence and then interpreting the rules to back up his interpretation of the fabrication.

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    It can be easily proven. Simply look for Harvey's (my) first post. You will find it in complimenting Mr. Burkeson's astute observation in his post arguing licensing in March of 2007.


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    Jack, where are you? Your thread has been hijacked by guys with too much time on their hands.

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    How is it hijacked given the thread title is "False Identities'?

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    I believe Jack's post was about how false identities affect the board, the types of posts, the idea of being skeptical about some posters and how to handle that. Granted in a small way you guys are dealing with those issues. For the most part though it;s just a pissing match ... again.
    But what do I know about such worldly matters. I'm just a dumb working stiff.

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    I had to go back and see how saying that Brian is doing a great job is somehow bootlicking - couldn't find it.

    I wonder where I will be cuz I think Brian is doing a damn great job.

    Seriously, something really should be done.

    I'm also puzzled when someone doesn't know that the start dates got all re-set when Brian changed the format a while back.
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    We know where the real boot lickers live.

    Brian is doing an absolute stupendous job, the info on this board is second to none.

    Now having said that watch how quick the wackos come out of the wood work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markus Keller View Post
    I believe Jack's post was about how false identities affect the board, the types of posts, the idea of being skeptical about some posters and how to handle that.


    Yes, in a perfect world I would agree with you, but we don't have a perfect world and disallowing anonymous posters here and now would not create one either. There are many here with obvious personal agendas, some of which are supported others are derided, and sometimes a message delivered anonymously can shine a light on some of the absurdity that occasionally passes as truth.

    Those of you who think that small-minded mob rule equates to some cockamamie form of democracy will only continue to feed on one another until there ain't anyone left to devour. I say, and have always said that there is room under the tent for everyone... the freaks, the geeks and even those who speak (anonymously of course)!


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