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Old 08-05-2008, 11:14 AM
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I'm looking for information on the various HI organizations. How many, when they were established, their requirements etc. I know I've seen the information scatted on different boards but now I can't locate it.

I'm working on a very brief presentation for a small group and would like this information for a brief history of home inspections.

Is there a single source or sources where I can find the material. Thanks.
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Old 08-05-2008, 12:02 PM
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Sooner or later, you'll need this...

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Old 08-05-2008, 12:18 PM
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Someone here can help you out:

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Old 08-05-2008, 12:24 PM
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Established the same year ASHI (1976) CREIA continues to be an excellent association. ASHI and CREIA have several joint chapters in California and reciprocal agreement crediting each other's CECs to their membership. Next year CREIA will be holding its annual conference in Arizona in a joint venture with Arizona ASHI.

The California Real Estate Inspection Association (CREIA) is a voluntary, nonprofit public-benefit organization of real estate inspectors. Founded in 1976, CREIA provides education, training and support services to its members and the real estate community. CREIA's Code of Ethics and Standards of Practice are recognized by the California Business and Professions Codes and are considered the standard of care by the real estate industry and legal profession in the state. CREIA Inspector Members have successfully passed the proctored comprehensive written California Home Inspector Exam on the myriad of systems and components in the construction and maintenance of residential dwellings.

CREIA's educational mission is to expand the technical knowledge of its members through continuing education. Certified CREIA Inspectors (CCI), Master CREIA Inspectors (MCI) and CREIA New Construction Specialist (CNCS) members must complete a minimum 30 hours of continuing education annually. Educational credits are obtained through monthly chapter educational meetings, chapter toolbox seminars, CREIA Advanced Mentoring Program (CAMP), state conferences in the spring and fall, and other CREIA approved sources. CREIA membership activities and programs encourage the sharing of experience and knowledge resulting in betterment of the real estate profession and the consumer public, which it serves.
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Old 08-05-2008, 06:11 PM
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Thank you Jerry; Four down. ??? to go.
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Old 08-05-2008, 07:49 PM
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Here is INACHI's as of today.

I think they started in 1995



Become Certified! Join InterNACHI today.
Benefits of membership.
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Requirements to apply for membership (working member):
You must have passed InterNACHI's Online Inspector Examination (free) with a score of 80 or better.
You must have completed InterNACHI's Ethics Obstacle Course (free).
You must have taken InterNACHI's Standards of Practice Quiz (free).
You must mail, fax, or submit online InterNACHI's Affidavit.
You must agree to adhere to the Standards of Practice.
You must agree to abide by the Code of Ethics.
You must agree to continue learning (24 hours/year) as per the Continuing Education Policy.
You must agree to maintain your member Online Continuing Education Log (free) as per the Continuing Education Policy.
You must agree that (after you join) if you have never performed a home inspection for a fee you will submit 4 mock inspections to InterNACHI's Report Review Committee (free) before performing your first home inspection for a client.
You must agree that within your first 10 days after joining, you will login to NACHIs educational message board.
You must agree that within your first 30 days after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's comprehensive online Standards of Practice course (free).
You must agree that before or within your first 30 days after joining you will complete InterNACHI's online Structural course (free) including all the quizzes within.
You must agree that within your first 45 days after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's comprehensive online Plumbing course (free) including all the quizzes and pass its final exam.
You must agree that within your first 45 days after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's comprehensive online Electrical course (free) including all the quizzes within and pass its final exam.
You must agree that before or within your first 45 days after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's online Safety Practices course (free) including all the quizzes within.
You must agree that within your first 60 days after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's comprehensive online Roofing course (free) including all the quizzes within and pass its final exam.
You must agree that within your first 3 months after joining, you will apply for a membership photo I.D. (free).
You must agree that within your first 6 months after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's online Vermiculite Insulation mini-course (free) including all the quizzes within.
You must agree that within your first 6 months after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's online Polybutylene Plumbing mini-course (free) including all the quizzes within.
You must agree that within your first 6 months after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's online Water Heater TPR Valve Discharge Piping mini-course (free) including all the quizzes within.
You must agree that within your first 6 months after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's online Emergency Exit mini-course (free) including all the quizzes within.
You must agree that within your first year of membership you will re-take and pass InterNACHI's Online Inspector Examination again (free) with a score of 80 or better.
You must agree that before or within your first 18 months after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's online Log Home course (free) including all quizzes within and pass its final exam.
You must agree that before or within your first 18 months after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's online Green Building course (free) including all quizzes within and pass its final exam.
You must agree that before joining or within your first 2 years after joining you will take at least 8 hours of advanced or beyond Standards of Practice coursework (reasonable exceptions apply).
You must agree that within your first 2 years of membership you will attend at least one chapter meeting or educational seminar (reasonable exceptions apply).
You must be actively working towards attaining a "Full" Membership.
All members get all membership benefits. Fee is $289/year... not a penny more.
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Requirements to maintain membership after you apply/join:
You must adhere to the Standards of Practice.
You must abide by the Code of Ethics.
You must continue learning (24 hours/year) as per the Continuing Education Policy.
You must maintain your member Online Continuing Education Log (free) as per the Continuing Education Policy.
If you have never performed a home inspection for a fee you must submit 4 mock inspections to InterNACHI's Report Review Committee (free) before performing your first home inspection for a client.
You must agree that within your first 10 days after joining, you will login to NACHIs educational message board.
You must agree that within your first 30 days after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's comprehensive online Standards of Practice course (free).
You must agree that before or within your first 30 days after joining you will complete InterNACHI's online Structural course (free).
You must agree that within your first 45 days after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's comprehensive online Plumbing course (free) including all the quizzes and pass its final exam.
You must agree that within your first 45 days after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's comprehensive online Electrical course (free) including all the quizzes within and pass its final exam.
You must agree that before or within your first 45 days after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's online Safety Practices course (free) including all the quizzes within.
You must agree that within your first 60 days after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's comprehensive online Roofing course (free) including all the quizzes within and pass its final exam.
You must agree that within your first 3 months of membership you will apply for a membership photo I.D. (free).
You must agree that within your first 6 months after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's online Vermiculite Insulation mini-course (free) including all the quizzes within.
You must agree that within your first 6 months after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's online Polybutylene Plumbing mini-course (free) including all the quizzes within.
You must agree that within your first 6 months after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's online Water Heater TPR Valve Discharge Piping mini-course (free) including all the quizzes within.
You must agree that within your first 6 months after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's online Emergency Exit mini-course (free) including all the quizzes within.
Every year of membership you must re-take and pass InterNACHI's Online Inspector Examination again (free).
You must agree that before or within your first 18 months after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's online Log Home course (free) including all quizzes within and pass its final exam.
You must agree that before or within your first 18 months after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's online Green Building Course (free) including all quizzes within and pass its final exam.
You must agree that before joining or within your first 2 years after joining you will take at least 8 hours of advanced or beyond Standards of Practice coursework (reasonable exceptions apply).
Within your first 2 years of membership you must attend at least one chapter meeting or educational seminar (reasonable exceptions apply).
And coming in 2007: InterNACHI's Occupant Hazard Recognition Primer.
Requirements for full membership:
You must have performed or participated in more than 100 home inspections.
You must have passed InterNACHI's Online Inspector Examination (free).
You must have completed InterNACHI's Ethics Obstacle Course (free).
You must have taken InterNACHI's Standards of Practice Quiz (free).
You must mail, fax, or submit online InterNACHI's Affidavit.
You must adhere to the Standards of Practice.
You must abide by the Code of Ethics.
You must continue learning (24 hours/year)as per the Continuing Education Policy.
You must maintain your member Online Continuing Education Log (free) as per the Continuing Education Policy.
You must agree that within your first 10 days after joining, you will login to NACHIs educational message board.
You must agree that within your first 30 days after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's comprehensive online Standards of Practice course (free).
You must agree that before or within your first 30 days after joining you will complete InterNACHI's online Structural course (free).
You must agree that within your first 45 days after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's comprehensive online Plumbing course (free) including all the quizzes and pass its final exam.
You must agree that within your first 45 days after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's comprehensive online Electrical course (free) including all the quizzes within and pass its final exam.
You must agree that before or within your first 45 days after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's online Safety Practices course (free) including all the quizzes within.
You must agree that within your first 60 days after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's comprehensive online Roofing course (free) including all the quizzes within and pass its final exam.
You must agree that within your first 3 months of membership you will apply for a membership photo I.D. (free).
You must agree that within your first 6 months after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's online Vermiculite Insulation mini-course (free) including all the quizzes within.
You must agree that within your first 6 months after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's online Polybutylene Plumbing mini-course (free) including all the quizzes within.
You must agree that within your first 6 months after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's online Water Heater TPR Valve Discharge Piping mini-course (free) including all the quizzes within.
You must agree that within your first 6 months after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's online Emergency Exit mini-course (free) including all the quizzes within.
Every year of membership you must re-take and pass InterNACHI's Online Inspector Examination (free).
You must agree that before or within your first 18 months after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's online Log Home course (free) including all quizzes within and pass its final exam.
You must agree that before or within your first 18 months after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's online Green Building Course (free) including all quizzes within and pass its final exam.
You must agree that before joining or within your first 2 years after joining you will take at least 8 hours of advanced or beyond Standards of Practice coursework (reasonable exceptions apply).
Within your first 2 years of membership you must attend at least one chapter meeting or educational seminar (reasonable exceptions apply).
If required by your state, you must have the proper E&O insurance.
And coming in 2007: InterNACHI's Occupant Hazard Recognition Primer.
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Warning to Consumers:

Unlike other home inspection associations, InterNACHI front-ends many of its membership requirements. In other words, all of our members must fulfill membership requirements before they can apply for membership. Other associations have little or no entrance requirements and encourage their members and associates to go out and perform hundreds of unqualified inspections for poor, unsuspecting consumers. Warning! Is your inspector blind? Click here.

CE Autolog
InterNACHI's autolog records completion of each required course automatically in each member's online continuing education log.
Note to members of other associations:
Members of other associations are welcome to join InterNACHI but a requirement of membership is that InterNACHI must be given equal prominence in your marketing (brochures and websites) as other associations you belong to.

Note to New Inspectors:

InterNACHI does not make a public distinction between these two levels of membership. No law requires you to publicly announce what your InterNACHI member level is so you are simply a "Member." This is true for many other professions. For instance, a lawyer is not required to warn his first client about his lack of experience. Also, no law recognizes experience and knowledge gained outside the performance of inspections (many inspectors were once involved in construction). Since every inspector's experience is different there is likely no correlation between real experience and level of membership. Furthermore, since no law requires a public disclosure of an inspector's experience (or lack of it), InterNACHI does not require it either. If you are only a new working member you need not alarm your clients. If you are a full member there is nothing preventing you from touting it. You must be one or the other though. InterNACHI does not "brand" new inspectors with derogatory terms such as "Associate" or "Candidate" because InterNACHI has entrance requirements. Many agents blacklist associates and candidates. If you are a member you may call yourself a "Certified Member" or a "Certified Home Inspector."
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Old 08-05-2008, 08:57 PM
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Strange thing is that in all my years of business, I've never had (1) client ask me if I belong to any HI organizations.

Does it really matter?

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Old 08-05-2008, 09:13 PM
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Never has a Client or Realtor asked me if I belonged to an association. The only thing I am ever asked since I got to Texas is if I am state certified or state licensed.

Only a couple of customers in the 4 years since I have been in Texas have asked me if I am insured.
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Old 08-05-2008, 09:58 PM
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I agree, the association does not make a good inspector.

A good message board or two sure helps though.

Just like all lines of work there are A+ performers all the way to D performers.
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Old 08-05-2008, 11:58 PM
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Click on the link that says Associations on the right side of this websites menu.
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Strange thing is that in all my years of business, I've never had (1) client ask me if I belong to any HI organizations.

Does it really matter?

rick


As VP & Membership Chairman of a local association I believe it matters greatly. You must not have any local associations marketing in your area, here in Tampa, ASHI has been direct marketing for over a decade. We print 50K brochures and have them delivered to every real estate office in the tri-county area which helps provide the opportunity for clients to ask... Do you belong to ASHI?

It is not going to happen otherwise, national & state organizations don't have the resources to drive branding everywhere but a small group inspectors who are willing to pool marketing funds can get the job done, of course don't expect miracles overnight... Suncoast ASHI has been doing this long before the housing boom and hopefully we will be able to continue our marketing campaign.

This year we are planning a new Internet campaign to drive prospective clients to our website and hopefully provide more leads for our members. Listed below are the benefits which set us apart.

Anticipated ASHI Suncoast Chapter participation benefits for the upcoming year include the following:

1. Regular monthly meetings with presentations of interest to the Home Inspection Profession ($15)
2. Professional fellowship and exchange of ideas
3. In-depth technical presentations that earn MRC’s
4. Certified Inspectors participate in our Home Inspection brochure distributed to the Tampa Bay Area Real Estate offices
5. Public Relations Committee working for you to increase awareness of ASHI® in the Tampa Bay area
6. Publication of your business on our professional chapter web site
7. ASHI® Suncoast Chapter plan to promote the placement of our website with major internet search engines to garner more hits
8. Suncoast Chapter Affiliate Membership in several Tampa Bay Area Realtor Boards

The amazing thing is we do all this for less than $500 per member, not to get too far off topic we also provide a 3-day seminar which allows our members to obtain all of their MRC's for the entire year at a very low cost... this year we did it for $150 per member. Think global but act local.
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Old 08-06-2008, 06:06 AM
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And who keeps track of all those Nachi requirements? No one I suspect but the individual. All those tests/quizzes are not proctored, its the honour system. Just look at the CMI designation, its all hype and bull.

Inspecting since 1991. My client questionnaires indicate membership in association is irrelevant. 95% of respondents indicate they relied on a friend, relative, agent, lawyer in obtaining an inspector, membership affiliation had no bearing on choosing.

As a matter of fact when I was an ASHI member I never received any referrals, ditto Nachi, ditto OAHI.

Who needs home inspector associations, especially if you are etablished? Nooooobody.
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Old 08-06-2008, 07:05 AM
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Every once in a while, I'll get a caller who wants to know if I am ASHI certified. They either read an article on choosing an HI or their realtor told them to get an ASHI inspector. This was much more prevalent when I started inspecting but it has died off for the most part.
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Personally I've never felt an association is there for getting its members work, but rather a place to add to one's education and share experiences with others in the same field thereby helping to raise the standards of the that particular industry. Sort of like this BB with the exception of providing some food, and of course with food one must have a beverage.
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Old 08-06-2008, 09:32 AM
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As VP & Membership Chairman of a local association I believe it matters greatly. You must not have any local associations marketing in your area, here in Tampa, ASHI has been direct marketing for over a decade. We print 50K brochures and have them delivered to every real estate office in the tri-county area which helps provide the opportunity for clients to ask... Do you belong to ASHI?

It is not going to happen otherwise, national & state organizations don't have the resources to drive branding everywhere but a small group inspectors who are willing to pool marketing funds can get the job done, of course don't expect miracles overnight... Suncoast ASHI has been doing this long before the housing boom and hopefully we will be able to continue our marketing campaign.

This year we are planning a new Internet campaign to drive prospective clients to our website and hopefully provide more leads for our members. Listed below are the benefits which set us apart.

Anticipated ASHI Suncoast Chapter participation benefits for the upcoming year include the following:

1. Regular monthly meetings with presentations of interest to the Home Inspection Profession ($15)
2. Professional fellowship and exchange of ideas
3. In-depth technical presentations that earn MRC’s
4. Certified Inspectors participate in our Home Inspection brochure distributed to the Tampa Bay Area Real Estate offices
5. Public Relations Committee working for you to increase awareness of ASHI® in the Tampa Bay area
6. Publication of your business on our professional chapter web site
7. ASHI® Suncoast Chapter plan to promote the placement of our website with major internet search engines to garner more hits
8. Suncoast Chapter Affiliate Membership in several Tampa Bay Area Realtor Boards

The amazing thing is we do all this for less than $500 per member, not to get too far off topic we also provide a 3-day seminar which allows our members to obtain all of their MRC's for the entire year at a very low cost... this year we did it for $150 per member. Think global but act local.
I have seen the NACHI adds to Realtors (Actually have kind of a membership with them) and I have seen the adds to Realtors from ASHI (use to kind of be a member with them)

Neither inspection organization ever did a thing for me when it came to getting any inspections.

It is actually really sad. Both organizations pretty much tell everyone that if you are not associated with them you a a pretty crappy inspector. Say what you will, its true.

An Association can only help you in a non licensed state as far as credibility. For any association to put out that if you are not one of them you are crap is about as disgusting as it gets. One company may be a little more blunt in saying it but it comes from both.

Raymond

"And who keeps track of all those Nachi requirements? No one I suspect but the individual. All those tests/quizzes are not proctored, its the honour system. Just look at the CMI designation, its all hype and bull."

Do you really think there is a mass conspiracy with the NACHI members that there is a group of others sitting there with them to take these tests. I am not defending them but really. I here that from so many about the non proctored tests. I know this may come as a surprise to some folks but most (or just about all folks) are pretty honest.

Joseph

Whether you wish to admit it or not ASHI does no more for *their* inspectors than anyone else. Every man achieves his own knowledge. Every man takes his own test. Everyman decides and takes their continuing eds as needed. Mass marketing to Realtors! Come on. Oh yeah. The Realtors (some) actually fall for this.

You actually make the Realtors say to inspectors, "Are you an ASHI member? Well if you are not an ASHI member you are not worth a pile of crap and I am not going to refer you"

Do you hear the sickening ridiculousness of that. What a pile of waste of human intelligence. Mass ridiculous brain washing. ASHI is no better than NACHI or any other association.
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Whether you wish to admit it or not ASHI does no more for *their* inspectors than anyone else. Every man achieves his own knowledge. Every man takes his own test. Everyman decides and takes their continuing eds as needed. Mass marketing to Realtors! Come on. Oh yeah. The Realtors (some) actually fall for this.

You actually make the Realtors say to inspectors, "Are you an ASHI member? Well if you are not an ASHI member you are not worth a pile of crap and I am not going to refer you"

Do you hear the sickening ridiculousness of that. What a pile of waste of human intelligence. Mass ridiculous brain washing. ASHI is no better than NACHI or any other association.



I don't have a clue what is bugging you, but you might want to up your meds, I never said ASHI was better than NACHI or visa-versa, as I happen to belong to both and support both associations.

All I did was to share what a group of local home inspectors are doing in the Tampa Bay area. Furthermore, I agree that the particular organization is of little concern (if ASHI were to go tango uniform tomorrow we would no doubt continue under another name), except... Here in Tampa where the local ASHI chapter has been delivering the same message for over ten years, and that kind of continuous marketing does work.

Because of the efforts of a small group of dedicated home inspectors working together over many years there now exists real estate offices in the Greater Tampa Bay area where only ASHI members are referred. The simple truth is this type of marketing works regardless of whether or not you believe or agree with it and nothing anyone says here is apt to turn the tide of success for Suncoast ASHI.

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Old 08-06-2008, 10:59 AM
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