Thread: bathroom heater

Never came across this one. how does this heater work?

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Are you asking if that is a gas wall heater?
If so, yes.

Originally Posted by Jason Schmidt

Never came across this one. how does this heater work?

Jason: It shoule be removed from service if it is not vented.

Originally Posted by A.D. Miller

Jason: It shoule be removed from service if it is not vented.

I agree it should be removed but not because of lack of venting.

It appears to be an older unit and likely does not have a Oxygen Depletion Sensor that would shut it down if not operating properly.

I don't like any heater/fireplace that is unvented. It dumps all the combustion product into the room along with a lot of moisture from the burnt gas.

Originally Posted by Michael Larson

I agree it should be removed but not because of lack of venting.

It appears to be an older unit and likely does not have a Oxygen Depletion Sensor that would shut it down if not operating properly.

Vent-Free Warnings:
-Don't use if anyone in the house is pregnant, diabetic, anemic or suffers from heart or respiratory problems
-Cannot be used as a sole or main source of heat
-Cannot normally be installed in a bedroom or bathroom
-Cannot be installed in a "confined space" where fumes may not be properly dispersed
-Should not be installed if the fireplace or chimney is in disrepair
Vented appliances address all these common home issues. Wouldn't you really rather vent those fumes OUT of your home through a chimney or vent?

I know it is gas. But how does it operate? It only has a valve that turns on the gas. No pilot light, no switch on the wall to turn it on.

Likely turn on the valve and strike a match


Needs to be removed, as noted, unless properly vented.

After those heaters are removed, most people convert that opening for a magazine rack in the bathroom instead of drywall repairs.

Originally Posted by Jason Schmidt

I know it is gas. But how does it operate? It only has a valve that turns on the gas. No pilot light, no switch on the wall to turn it on.

Jason: Read the label; find the manufacturer; get the installation instructions and or the owner's manual.

Dover Corporation, Peerless Division, Lousiville, KY

Originally Posted by Jason Schmidt

I know it is gas. But how does it operate? It only has a valve that turns on the gas. No pilot light, no switch on the wall to turn it on.

This is one of the main reasons these things should be removed. A little kid in the bathroom messing with the valve and leaves it running. The older the home the more likely it is just for an electric switch to be bad and arc when turned on or off. Not to mention they can and have been a fire hazard. Also running in a small bathroom they eat all the oxygen. I can keep going but I believe that is enough.

Originally Posted by Jason Schmidt

Never came across this one. how does this heater work?

Man Jason, you make me feel old!

You really never saw a gas fired bathroom heater? Just how old are you? (Just so I can compare and make myself feel REALLY old!)

Jason,

Have you ever lit up the gas starter bar on a fireplace without the use of a wall switch?

Same principle, you need a source of ignition.

rick

Originally Posted by Jim Luttrall

Man Jason, you make me feel old!

You really never saw a gas fired bathroom heater? Just how old are you? (Just so I can compare and make myself feel REALLY old!)

Jim: You are about twenty years his senior. Old, true. But, not dust-farting old.

Originally Posted by A.D. Miller

Vent-Free Warnings:
-Don't use if anyone in the house is pregnant, diabetic, anemic or suffers from heart or respiratory problems
-Cannot be used as a sole or main source of heat
-Cannot normally be installed in a bedroom or bathroom
-Cannot be installed in a "confined space" where fumes may not be properly dispersed
-Should not be installed if the fireplace or chimney is in disrepair
Vented appliances address all these common home issues. Wouldn't you really rather vent those fumes OUT of your home through a chimney or vent?

And where are those warnings from? As gas log?

The one in the pic is just old and lacks modern safety controls,

Ventless gas fired heaters with ODS have an extremely good safety record when used in accordance with manufacturer's directions.and are are allowed in most jurisdictions.

They are used in millions of homes.

I wonder why gas kitchen ovens and stoves are not supplied with oxygen depletion sensors since they use as much fuel..as these kinds of heaters.
I used old heaters with ceramic plates in beautiful Webster Texas for a few winters and thought they worked great.
I've also been to more than a few homes heated with natural gas right from the well in West Virginia that burned heaters like that and never a problem..
Funny I never realized a few years later using these heaters is tantamount to child endangerment ,based on what if's and mights

Grew up burning coal .. woke up more than a few times with strong "coal gas" smell from a damper too closed. We knew more than a few deaths from that mistake.

Richard, not implying you are as old as Aaron and I but if you were using those heaters, you might be close to my generation and the leaky houses that went along with them. It was hard to keep air in there when you tried and most people of that era turned them off when sleeping so people dying of CO was less of a problem than it would be in a well sealed house of today.

Originally Posted by Richard Pultar

I wonder why gas kitchen ovens and stoves are not supplied with oxygen depletion sensors since they use as much fuel..as these kinds of heaters.

Because those are considered 'attended' appliances where the user is there during their use (with a few exceptions such as when something is baking in the oven for a couple of hours, no need to stand and watch it, as they say 'a watched pot never boils').

The other appliances are 'unattended' appliances.

At least that is 'my' theory as to why.

Thank you for all all your input.

Jason,

Is that unit installed on a wall or at ceiling?

If the bathroom's exhaust vent is wired with this heater, venting should not be a problem not that it is.

Enlcosed garage heater

Those types of heaters are common in many of the rural areas near me. People have no realization of how dangerous those are.

Ted, that does not look like a garage.

jason did you ever find any info on the wall heater you have