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  1. #1
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    Default make up required?

    Got a new construction home, electric water heater/HE furnace pulling intake from outside. No fresh air/make up air vent present. I know the mechanicals don't require it but what about when bath/kitchen vents are running. Thinking it would depressurize the home and cause little air movement due to how tight houses are these days. (no air exchanger) Any thoughts?

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    Default Re: make up required?

    From the 2012 IRC: (bold and underlining are mine)
    - R303.4 Mechanical ventilation. - - Where the air infiltration rate of a dwelling unit is less than 5 air changes per hour when tested with a blower door at a pressure of 0.2 inch w.c (50 Pa) in accordance with Section N1102.4.1.2, the dwelling unit shall be provided with whole-house mechanical ventilation in accordance with Section M1507.3.

    - M1507.3 Whole-house mechanical ventilation system.
    - - Whole-house mechanical ventilation systems shall be designed in accordance with Sections M1507.3.1 through M1507.3.3.
    - - M1507.3.1 System design.
    - - - The whole-house ventilation system shall consist of one or more supply or exhaust fans, or a combination of such, and associated ducts and controls. Local exhaust or supply fans are permitted to serve as such a system. Outdoor air ducts connected to the return side of an air handler shall be considered to provide supply ventilation.
    - - M1507.3.2 System controls.
    - - - The whole-house mechanical ventilation system shall be provided with controls that enable manual override.
    - - M1507.3.3 Mechanical ventilation rate.
    - - - The whole-house mechanical ventilation system shall provide outdoor air at a continuous rate of not less than that determined in accordance with Table M1507.3.3(1).
    - - - - Exception: The whole-house mechanical ventilation system is permitted to operate intermittently where the system has controls that enable operation for not less than 25-percent of each 4-hour segment and the ventilation rate prescribed in Table M1507.3.3(1) is multiplied by the factor determined in accordance with Table M1507.3.3(2).
    - - - - TABLE M1507.3.3(1) CONTINUOUS WHOLE-HOUSE MECHANICAL VENTILATION SYSTEM AIRFLOW RATE REQUIREMENTS
    - - - - - (refer to the table for the requirements)


    First and foremost, R303.4 means that a blower door test is REQUIRED (how else would one know what the air change rate was with a blower door test?) ...

    ... how many blower door tests are being done on houses built under the 2012 IRC?

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    Default Re: make up required?

    It might behoove you to have a blower door test conducted to see just how tight the house is and if any make up air is being pulled in through seams, cracks, window frames, electrical outlets.

    A heat recovery ventilator could be installed (HRV) and it would need to be sized and balanced.

    Alternatively a duct from outside could be installed into the return air system.

    https://www.cmhc-schl.gc.ca/publicat...ech/91-206.pdf

    Or you could install a 6" dia. static make up air inlet as shown. The end of the duct is placed in a bucket and cold air is only pulled in when required. The bucket acts as a cold air trap.

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    Default Re: make up required?

    Quote Originally Posted by Raymond Wand View Post
    It might behoove you to have a blower door test conducted to see just how tight the house is and if any make up air is being pulled in through seams, cracks, window frames, electrical outlets.

    A heat recovery ventilator could be installed (HRV) and it would need to be sized and balanced.

    Alternatively a duct from outside could be installed into the return air system.

    https://www.cmhc-schl.gc.ca/publicat...ech/91-206.pdf

    Or you could install a 6" dia. static make up air inlet as shown. The end of the duct is placed in a bucket and cold air is only pulled in when required. The bucket acts as a cold air trap.
    Thanks guys that will help. blower door test looks like only way to determine for sure.

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  5. #5
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    Default Re: make up required?

    As a new home built under the 2007 MN State Building Code, (2006 I codes, 2012 I codes don't go into effect until 1/24/2015) the code requires that the builder submit calculations to determine if, and how much, make-up air is required (2006 IMC Table 501.3.1). The local building department should have the information you need. Blower door tests are an option now; they will be required for all applications submitted after the 24th.


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