Disconnect switch location photos.

**Gene South** · 12-03-2016, 09:57 AM

I see many new houses with the AC disconnect switch installed directly behind the condensers. Some cities enforce this and some don't. I believe this configuration violates two codes:

§ 2009 IRC 3405.1
§ 2011 NEC 110.26A

Also, I see many power company electrical meters installed behind the fence and in tight areas. This meter can be read electronically from a distance and does not require a meter reader actually look at the meter. Not sure what the space requirements are on the electric meter. The utility company was not clear on this.IMG_0379.jpg

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**Mark Reinmiller** · 12-03-2016, 07:41 PM

No harm in pointing this out, but I don't see a big problem with this. I don't report it. I do report many things other inspectors don't report. I think sometimes inspectors take too much time looking for technical violations of codes and not enough time actually inspecting.

**Raymond Wand** · 12-04-2016, 07:18 AM

Reported to Brian

**Jerry Peck** · 12-04-2016, 08:06 AM

Gene,

You are correct - 30 inch wide (minimum ) by 36 inches in front of working space is required for each disconnect and the meter.

The working spaces may overlap each other - one 30 inch wide working space may work for the three disconnects.

Write it up. Make a big deal about it. Start asking your AHJ building officials and inspectors (asking 'doesn't this code section - have it with you - mean that working space is required in front of electrical equipment such as disconnects?' ... when they say 'Yes' you show them the photo).

May take awhile for them to come around to enforce it, but that works and not only leads to your goal, but it also leads AHJ gaining respect for the home inspectors who do that.

**Gene South** · 12-04-2016, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by Mark Reinmiller

No harm in pointing this out, but I don't see a big problem with this. I don't report it. I do report many things other inspectors don't report. I think sometimes inspectors take too much time looking for technical violations of codes and not enough time actually inspecting.

Hi Mark...

Another thought is 7 years down the road if the house is sold and the new buyers' inspector writes it up, I don't want the Sellers wondering "..why didn't our inspector not tell us about this?.."

**Jerry Peck** · 12-04-2016, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by Gene South

Hi Mark...

Another thought is 7 years down the road if the house is sold and the new buyers' inspector writes it up, I don't want the Sellers wondering "..why didn't our inspector not tell us about this?.."

Especially when the HVAC technician's spouse's attorney arrives and your client calls you for your attorney's number ... 'why didn't you tell us about that' becomes real important.

**Raymond Wand** · 12-05-2016, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by Mark Reinmiller

No harm in pointing this out, but I don't see a big problem with this. I don't report it. I do report many things other inspectors don't report. I think sometimes inspectors take too much time looking for technical violations of codes and not enough time actually inspecting.

Thanks Mark, thats a very astute comment, can't agree more!

**Jerry Peck** · 12-05-2016, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by Mark Reinmiller

No harm in pointing this out, but I don't see a big problem with this. I don't report it. I do report many things other inspectors don't report. I think sometimes inspectors take too much time looking for technical violations of codes and not enough time actually inspecting.

I guess it comes down to whether the inspector is inspecting or just doing walk throughs ... or that each inspector must decide for themselves what not to inspect?

Walking by something like that and not writing it up is just putting one's own name on the list of defendants.

**ROBERT YOUNG** · 12-05-2016, 05:58 PM

I see several answers, so I thought I would throw my hat in the ring.

An inspector's safe working clearances are clearances for the client.
What came first, the chicken or the egg?

For the client:
1: What came first, the safety switch disconnect or the condenser?
If the condenser came first, I would be on a higher alert when going my assessment of the electrical there on out.
2: For the AJH? What came first?

Take time and reflect.

**BARRY ADAIR** · 12-05-2016, 06:40 PM

Take time and reflect.

did & it didn't get any better
btw i don't believe 1 trade can alter or obstruct another trade & create a violation
1, 2, 3, 4....wrongs will never make it right
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worth repeating

Write it up. Make a big deal about it. Start asking your AHJ building officials and inspectors (asking 'doesn't this code section - have it with you - mean that working space is required in front of electrical equipment such as disconnects?' ... when they say 'Yes' you show them the photo).

May take awhile for them to come around to enforce it, but that works and not only leads to your goal, but it also leads AHJ gaining respect for the home inspectors who do that.