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09-23-2007, 01:55 PM
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3.5 ton for 2100sf house
House got high ceilings, 2100sf. HVAC unit 3.5 ton. I don't think it is big enough to cool the heat load in the house. How would you all word it out on the report?
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09-23-2007, 02:07 PM
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Re: 3.5 ton for 2100sf house
Sounds like this is beyond the scope of an inspection but if you want to try to figure it "partially"......
Need to know SEER rating of unit.
1 or 2 story house?
1 or 2 thermostats zoning system present?
Siding material, foundation material, window ratings, number of windows and sizes, attic insulation type and thickness, wall thickness..
See where this is headed?
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09-23-2007, 02:28 PM
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Re: 3.5 ton for 2100sf house
I make no determination as to whether the unit is sized adequately for the square footage of the home. Consider having the unit evaluated for proper sizing by a licensed HVAC contractor.
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09-23-2007, 02:55 PM
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Re: 3.5 ton for 2100sf house
What does SEER have to do with the heat load and tonnage calculations?
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09-23-2007, 02:56 PM
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Re: 3.5 ton for 2100sf house
Matt,
Being in the Houston area, it is probably considered undersized.
In the Dallas area, most HVAC contractors figure about a 1 ton per 1K of square footage.
With the humidity and heat in Houston, I would expect the same.
Most homes I see of that square footage here would have at least a 4-ton and most would have a 5 ton.
rick
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09-23-2007, 02:59 PM
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Re: 3.5 ton for 2100sf house
Originally Posted by Rick Hurst
Matt,
Being in the Houston area, it is probably considered undersized.
In the Dallas area, most HVAC contractors figure about a 1/2 ton per 1K of square footage.
With the humidity and heat in Houston, I would expect the same.
Most homes I see of that square footage here would have at least a 4-ton and most would have a 5 ton.
rick
Did you mean 1 ton per 500 sf?
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09-23-2007, 03:01 PM
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Re: 3.5 ton for 2100sf house
Originally Posted by Fritz Kelly
I make no determination as to whether the unit is sized adequately for the square footage of the home. Consider having the unit evaluated for proper sizing by a licensed HVAC contractor.
If you are calling for a HVAC contractor evaluation, aren't you kind of making a determination that unit is not sufficient?
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09-23-2007, 03:09 PM
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Re: 3.5 ton for 2100sf house
Matt,
Yes I did, and I edited my comment.
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09-23-2007, 03:20 PM
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Re: 3.5 ton for 2100sf house
Originally Posted by M Kelekci
If you are calling for a HVAC contractor evaluation, aren't you kind of making a determination that unit is not sufficient?
What checks/tests did you do during your inspection?
You obviously found some other issues, I'd hope.
While the HVAC guy is out there have him size the system and let him make the call.
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09-23-2007, 03:39 PM
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Re: 3.5 ton for 2100sf house
"If you are calling for a HVAC contractor evaluation, aren't you kind of making a determination that unit is not sufficient?"
In a way, yes. I guess you could expand the concept to say something like " In my experience most homes of this size have at least 4 tons of refrigeration. The unit on this home is 3.5 tons. Proper sizing of an air conditioning system takes into account many factors such as cubic volume, insulation and ductwork design which are not within the scope of a home inspection. I recommend you have a heating / air conditioning contractor evaluate the system to determine if it is sized properly.
I was just trying to keep it simple.
Some of the contractors around here that actually do the calculations (few and far between) have told me that most systems they see are oversized which is in most cases worse than undersized.
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09-23-2007, 03:49 PM
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Re: 3.5 ton for 2100sf house
I guess it really depends on your area. In Knoxville, that would probably be fine.
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09-23-2007, 04:16 PM
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Re: 3.5 ton for 2100sf house
Air conditioning sizes are done by calculations. I believe it is a Manual J calculation. Rule of thumb is 500 to 600 square feet per ton, but that is only a rule of thumb and may not always be correct. I have, on occassion (once or twice), informed my client that I was not sure if the unit was sized right, and told them that it is done by equasion, and leave them with the option to have a licensed AC company verify the proper size.
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09-23-2007, 04:44 PM
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Re: 3.5 ton for 2100sf house
A home inspection does not involve the calculations of heat gain necessary to decide if the cooling capacity on a building is adequate, but the inspector is expected to examine and report on the rated system capacity (such as "36,000 BTUH") and on the presence or absence of cooling sources in the habitable rooms of the building.
A simple rule of thumb for relatively cool climates such as the Northeastern United States: one ton per 400 sq.ft. (Commercial) or one ton per 500 to 1000 sq.ft. (Residential) or one ton per 400 to 800 sq.ft. (Space Pak Systems). . Or a 3000 sq.ft. house may require a 5-ton unit. Or count the supply outlets: 10 outlets @ 100 cfm (estimated) = 1,000 cfm = 2.5 tons needed.
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