Thread: Can anyone tell me why this is

Inspected 2005 house with a gas hot water heater in the garage with the flue going to the roof. What were they trying to accomplish here with so many elbows and turns? Apparently it functions but looks odd.

Thanks,

Jim

Git er dun! is what is says.

Did you check the clearances from the drywall on the attic side? Most installs as such will be in contact with the drywall 99% of the time.

rick

Thanks Rick,

I did and it was in the 99%. How would you write the remedy or solution to this

Jim

My guess would be laziness on the plumbers part. They just used what they had and didn't want to go to the supply house to get the correct length of vent pipe to make that transition.

There is too much wrong with the photographed and described photo to presume it was done by a licensed qualified tradesman.

You can mention the clearance and unsupported penetration and unstrapped/unsupported offsets and unsupported vertical if you feel comfortable doing so.

Would need many more details and photos to nail down each and every defect but there are many.

Call for Level 2 Inspection and correction of the gas vent for the gas-fire domestic water heater.

Thanks for all of the help!

Jim Murphy

Originally Posted by Rick Hurst

Git er dun! is what is says.

Originally Posted by Dylan Whitehead

My guess would be laziness on the plumbers part. They just used what they had and didn't want to go to the supply house to get the correct length of vent pipe to make that transition.

Yep, have seen similar things all the time done by LICENSED contractors of all trades.

No need to make an assumption that it was *not done by* licensed contractors just because it was done so poorly. That's what keeps HIs in business.

Originally Posted by JIM MURPHY

Inspected 2005 house with a gas hot water heater in the garage with the flue going to the roof. What were they trying to accomplish here with so many elbows and turns? Apparently it functions but looks odd.

Thanks,

Jim

Jim:

As HG already indicated, Duravent and Amerivent, et al. require support straps at every elbow. That should really help the looks of this mess.

I would say the installer was short on pipe and used fittings to make up the difference. The problem with that is, each of those elbows is equal to a certain number of feet of pipe. Depending on how far that vent runs, they may be over on footage.

Originally Posted by Jerry Peck

Yep, have seen similar things all the time done by LICENSED contractors of all trades.

No need to make an assumption that it was *not done by* licensed contractors just because it was done so poorly. That's what keeps HIs in business.

I said too many deficiencies "to presume it was done by a licensed qualified tradesman".

Statements not equal in the logic department.

You're welcome Jim Murphy.

Originally Posted by H.G. Watson, Sr.

I said too many deficiencies "to presume it was done by a licensed qualified tradesman".

Statements not equal in the logic department.

And I said:

Originally Posted by Jerry Peck

Yep, have seen similar things all the time done by LICENSED contractors of all trades.

No need to make an assumption that it was *not done by* licensed contractors just because it was done so poorly. That's what keeps HIs in business.

Very much equal in the logic department.

Having been around construction and inspection for a very long time, I have seen so many deficiencies done by "licensed qualified tradesman" that there is nothing there to presume other than it was done by them.

Of course, that term "licensed qualified tradesman" is a poor term and has been discussed here at length:
- In areas which require licensing, one must be licensed, and, when one is licensed, that makes them qualified.
- In areas which require licensing, being qualified means one is licensed.

There is another term many of us have started using: "licensed and competent" as that term indicates that not only is one "licensed and qualified" but that they are also "competent" to do the work.

I have seen "competent" workers who were not licensed, therefore they were not "qualified" to do the work, but they sure did it a lot better than "licensed and qualified" contractors.

....*Sigh*.....

Originally Posted by H.G. Watson, Sr.

....*Sigh*.....

Double *Sigh* ... you are the one trying to split hairs, I'm just following the teacher.

(sigh)