Thread: artsy bollards

I wonder how the gas company feels about the "artistic" additions to these bollards.

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Look like brake shoes from a really big truck.......city garage maybe?

Originally Posted by Jim Zborowski

Look like brake shoes from a really big truck.......city garage maybe?

Brake shoes, wrenches, coil springs, all kinds of metal objects welded to the bollards. The whole block was like this. Metal artist apparently with lots of time on his hands.

It's got to be this guy:
Leo Razzi - Industrial Iron Art, Metal Sculptures, and Outdoor Art

I would think that would need detectable warnings (truncated domes) around it for the blind.

In looking at some of the "art" on the link John provided, some of that would also require detectable warnings.

Originally Posted by Jerry Peck

I would think that would need detectable warnings (truncated domes) around it for the blind.

In looking at some of the "art" on the link John provided, some of that would also require detectable warnings.

Truncated domes? Never heard of them. Is this what you are referring to?

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I think Dave Barry would say that Truncated Domes would be a good name for a rock band.

Originally Posted by Gunnar Alquist

Truncated domes? Never heard of them. Is this what you are referring to?

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That'd be them.

It's probably not an issue for the visibly impaired, because their cane would detect them. The issue is when there are objects that protrude out from a wall, or the underside of open stairways (they can strike their head on teh riser, because the cane won't detect it).

From ADAAG:
4.4 Protruding Objects.
4.4.1* General. Objects projecting from walls (for example, telephones) with their leading edges between 27 in and 80 in (685 mm and 2030 mm) above the finished floor shall protrude no more than 4 in (100 mm) into walks, halls, corridors, passageways, or aisles. Objects mounted with their leading edges at or below 27 in (685 mm) above the finished floor may protrude any amount. Free-standing objects mounted on posts or pylons may overhang 12 in (305 mm) maximum from 27 in to 80 in (685 mm to 2030 mm) above the ground or finished floor.

I'd be more concrened about a technmician being impaled.

Originally Posted by Steve Frederickson

It's probably not an issue for the visibly impaired, because their cane would detect them. The issue is when there are objects that protrude out from a wall, or the underside of open stairways (they can strike their head on teh riser, because the cane won't detect it).

From ADAAG:
4.4 Protruding Objects.
4.4.1* General. Objects projecting from walls (for example, telephones) with their leading edges between 27 in and 80 in (685 mm and 2030 mm) above the finished floor shall protrude no more than 4 in (100 mm) into walks, halls, corridors, passageways, or aisles. Objects mounted with their leading edges at or below 27 in (685 mm) above the finished floor may protrude any amount. Free-standing objects mounted on posts or pylons may overhang 12 in (305 mm) maximum from 27 in to 80 in (685 mm to 2030 mm) above the ground or finished floor.

I'd be more concrened about a technmician being impaled.

Steve,

I'm thinking along the lines of if they are walking along the wall and their cane does not strike them, or they turn and start to walk between them.

While they feel with their canes in precise ways, that detection is not infallible.

Let's say their cane strikes one, gets caught, and they lose their grip and drop their cane, they are now in for a particularly rough time because they do not have their cane, and cannot find their cane.

Also, if anyone as every considered it, I find VERY FEW detectable warning areas which meet the requirements of the code as most are woefully under size in area and most are virtually undetectable.