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    Default Spliced plumb job

    Hey guys,

    I know this isn't right...looking for some of your fine verbiage to describe this. This is an S-trap coming from the kitchen sink down and into the cast pipe below.

    I appreciate your input!

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    Default Re: Spliced plumb job

    Saddle connections are not allowed.

    My reports stated to the effect of: The kitchen sink waste/drain piping, along with possible other sources, connects into the DWV vertical stack through a saddle type fitting, which is not allowed:
    - 2006 IRC states:
    - - P3003.2 Prohibited joints. Running threads and bands shall not be used in the drainage system. Drainage and vent piping shall not be drilled, tapped, burned or welded. The following types of joints and connections shall be prohibited:
    - - - 1. Cement or concrete.
    - - - 2. Mastic or hot-pour bituminous joints.
    - - - 3. Joints made with fittings not approved for the specific installation.
    - - - 4. Joints between different diameter pipes made with elastomeric rolling O-rings.
    - - - 5. Solvent-cement joints between different types of plastic pipe.
    - - - 6. Saddle-type fittings.

    Not my fine verbiage, but that of the code, there is now nothing to argue about *with me*, let them argue *with the code*.


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    Default Re: Spliced plumb job

    I don't know any fine verbiage. I would just say that saddle fittings aren't allowed, that it is more likely to leak and clog and that a qualified plumber should do it over the right way.

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    Default Re: Spliced plumb job

    As always the board never fails me!

    Thanks guys!


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    Default Re: Spliced plumb job

    How about "Wrong"?

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    Default Re: Spliced plumb job

    I don't get too wordy with stuff like that............improper and unprofessional installation of branch drain line for kitchen sink at connection to cast iron stack - repairs needed


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    The 206 UPC prohibits modified connection to pipe like this, similar to the IPC. Furthermore all materials and fittings shall be listed; I would think this one is not listed. Also the UPC requires all drainage fitting to be directional, not happening here is it? Is that a vent pipe or a vertical drain?

    Last edited by Randy Cooper; 08-05-2009 at 05:00 PM.

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    Default Re: Spliced plumb job

    Its stuff like this you guys find that keeps me coming to the site. Many times I get into a small dispute with a home owner about plumbing like that, They always tell me "But the hardware store sells it so its has to be legal" I always end up saying they can sell you anything, even if it does not meet the plumbing code, you just can not use it in your plumbing system.


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