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    Also, aside from the drain at the trap does this waste plumbing installation appear to be correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Stouffer View Post
    Also, aside from the drain at the trap does this waste plumbing installation appear to be correct?

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    No,

    Improper S Trap .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Stephens View Post
    Improper S Trap .
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    Versus a "proper" S trap?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Peck View Post
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    Versus a "proper" S trap?
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    Actually The Whole Installation is A Proper Mess.
    * the old Ice Cream Bucket underneath is the Only Component that is Functioning as Intended.
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    They make a trap bend with a proper cleanout plug - seems odd they would go to the trouble of fabricating something.

    To me that looks like a proper S-trap if that's what they were intending to install.


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    Not only an S type Trap but using non sanitary fittings (conduit or vent 90s instead of bends) and intermediate reduction and multiple slip joints it wouldn't even be a "proper" S-Trap were they legal in this application.

    Cleanout plugs common in non-slip joint traps.

    An island loop vent and a correct trap would be a better approach. From the looks of things perhaps that's what was planned by the shopper, but the installer didn't have a clue. The distance/clearance from the drain basket to the mess looks dubious (contamination-wise).

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    Quote Originally Posted by H.G. Watson, Sr. View Post
    Not only an S type Trap but using non sanitary fittings (conduit or vent 90s instead of bends) and intermediate reduction and multiple slip joints it wouldn't even be a "proper" S-Trap were they legal in this application.
    For my part, I said it was a "proper" S-trap with tongue firmly planted in cheek. There's no indication here that anyone involved in the design and installation of the waste system had any skill or competence. But it sure took a lot of effort and someone thought they were doing something right. I mean, look at the drains they fit in at the bottom of the traps. They cost money and took time to install. You've got to admire incompetence when it becomes an art form.


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    Quote Originally Posted by H.G. Watson, Sr. View Post
    Not only an S type Trap but using non sanitary fittings (conduit or vent 90s instead of bends) and intermediate reduction and multiple slip joints it wouldn't even be a "proper" S-Trap were they legal in this application.
    One of my points in pointing out that is not even a "proper" 'S' trap.

    An island loop vent and a correct trap would be a better approach.
    I think a properly installed AAV would be the best solution.

    To try to install a proper island loop vent would entail A LOT of work and getting to places which might not be able to be gotten to. See attached photo, courtesy of Ron Hasil (I believe it was).

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    One thing is certain: there will be a lot of water to deal with when it is disassembled to make corrections. The suggestion of an air admittance valve is a good one, and would correct the problems if installed properly. What ever happened to installing escutcheon plates where drains penetrate the floor of cabinets?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Aldering View Post
    One thing is certain: there will be a lot of water to deal with when it is disassembled to make corrections. The suggestion of an air admittance valve is a good one, and would correct the problems if installed properly. What ever happened to installing escutcheon plates where drains penetrate the floor of cabinets?
    That an element of the past Randy.

    AAV's can no longer be used up here.
    Once thought to be a quick solver to the problem, some idiot figured out a way to screw it up.

    Just like traps.






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    Its not a s-trap but it is vented incorrectly


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    Some creative people have far to much time on their hands.


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