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    Crimped copper fitting plumbing connection. For hot water supply. Only one crimp. Everything else soldered.
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    That looks like a version of the fittings which are soldered fittings, but which are made with that 'ring' filled with solder.

    The outside of the pipe is cleaned in the normal manner; the inside of the fitting is cleaned in the normal manner; flux is applied; the fittings and pipes are assembled; then the pipe is heated at the fitting in the normal manner - but no solder is needed because the solder in that 'ring' melts and flows around the pipe and fitting, soldering and sealing the two together.

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    Solderless Crimping copper pipe fittings.
    The fittings are flared with a rubber O ring in the flare. Unique idea.
    crimp fittings kempress viega b-press conex new hand tool

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROBERT YOUNG View Post
    Crimped copper fitting plumbing connection. For hot water supply. Only one crimp. Everything else soldered.
    First one.
    crimped copper fitting.JPG

    Yeah, I have seen those a few times. In my area, they are used on repair jobs. I have never seen a whole house done with those. The only advantage that I can see is that the plumber can make the repair with water in the line, whereas soldering/sweating requires a dry pipe.

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    I have also seen the type that Jerry referred to. I can only imagine those are marketed to do-it-yourselfers. I can't see a plumbing contractor using them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunnar Alquist View Post
    Yeah, I have seen those a few times. In my area, they are used on repair jobs.
    Yes repair work.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunnar Alquist View Post
    I have never seen a whole house done with those. The only advantage that I can see is that the plumber can make the repair with water in the line, whereas soldering/sweating requires a dry pipe.

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    Taking everything into consideration, cost and time saved, I expect this methods to become more prevalent.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunnar Alquist View Post
    I have also seen the type that Jerry referred to. I can only imagine those are marketed to do-it-yourselfers. I can't see a plumbing contractor using them.

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    I concur.

    10 sharkbite fittings in a 3 sq. ft radius with pex and copper. What a report I have to write. Where's the Tylenol?

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    What is the problem with having 10 Sharkbite connections? They are visible to you so they are visible to the HO. They do not leak. Even if one does leak, it can be removed and replaced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Kogel View Post
    What is the problem with having 10 Sharkbite connections? They are visible to you so they are visible to the HO. They do not leak. Even if one does leak, it can be removed and replaced.
    As long as it is in a combination of PEX and copper, or PEX and other nonmetallic pipe - not an issue.

    But if installed in a copper system, then the SharkBite fittings need to be bonded around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Peck View Post
    As long as it is in a combination of PEX and copper, or PEX and other nonmetallic pipe - not an issue.

    But if installed in a copper system, then the SharkBite fittings need to be bonded around.
    Lack of bonding straps.
    GEC loose on grounding conductor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROBERT YOUNG View Post
    Lack of bonding straps.
    GEC loose on grounding conductor.
    Did you look at the tag on that T&P relief valve to see if it was a XL (extra long sensor) model?

    The T&P is mounted into a a Tee fitting and is not in the top of the tank as required, unless the T&P has an extra long sensor element.

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