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    Default Faucet cartridge longevity

    I used to install and repair sink faucets with rubber or silicone washers that wore out after several years. Then I installed some single-handle faucets that incorporate cartridges. I wonder about the expected lifespan.

    Eight years ago, I installed a Kraus single-handle faucet at a bathroom sink. A few years ago, it started to leak, and I replaced the cartridge. It's started to leak again. There are only two of us, and this is not the only bathroom we use.

    Is this reasonable longevity?

    I'm trying to decide whether to replace the cartridge again, swap it out for a Moen single-handle faucet, or go back to the washer type. What are your thoughts/experiences?

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    Default Re: Faucet cartridge longevity

    I haven't heard of Kraus before, is it a 'builder's line brand, a mid-level, or higher quality brand?

    Of course, keeping in mind that many brands have different price lrvel/quality faucets.

    I prefer Moen and Delta, but have had excellent results with dome other brands too.

    Delta has, at least for all the Delra faucets I've had, had lifetime warranty on their parts, including sprayers (like at kitchen faucets).

    Hard to beat a lifetime warranty. And, yes, Delta has always sent replacement parts when they were needed.

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    Default Re: Faucet cartridge longevity

    Thanks, Jerry.

    Kraus is priced between Delta and Moen. I believe they claim U.S. manufacture, like Moen, but offer a five-year warranty, rather than lifetime. I'm a bit more concerned with reliability than with warranty terms; I also like the idea of buying products whose manufacture may, I recognize it's just may, be kinder to the factory workers and environment than I expect in China.


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    Default Re: Faucet cartridge longevity

    Quote Originally Posted by david shapiro View Post
    I'm a bit more concerned with reliability than with warranty terms;
    David, I agree, however, nothing lasts forever, and knowing that a product has a company who will stand behind their product is very worthwhile.

    The kitchen faucet in the house we had in Ormond Beach, FL, was put in in 2006 when we bought the house and remodeled the kitchen. Between 2006 and 2021 when we sold the house and moved to Asheville, NC, I had to replace the cartridge once and the hand-held sprayer once, both replaced under their lifetime warranty. Both were simple for me to replace.

    I think that is a very good lifespan of use.

    That said, though, the tub/shower valves in both bathrooms were the old Moen Moentrol types originally installed in 1979. I have no idea of their life between 1979 and 2006, but between 2006 and 2021 I replaced both cartridges once. I have always been a fan of those old Moentrol faucets as they were well made and long-lasting. They were also very easy to replace the cartridge in them.

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    Default Re: Faucet cartridge longevity

    Most cartridges last for many years, maybe that model uses lesser quality materials or poor factory standards. Maybe the water quality is a bit off.

    Moen offers lifetime parts (call them and they send the new part for free), and other fixture manufactures do that as well.

    I recently replaced a cartridge in a 5-year-old American Standard bath faucet, gets heavy daily use.

    I wouldn't think you'd want to buy (if you could) a faucet with rubber washers & seats in today's world.


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    Default Re: Faucet cartridge longevity

    Thanks, Jerry, Dom.


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    Default Re: Faucet cartridge longevity

    The denouement, with additional details:

    I will be replacing the ~8 y.o. Kraus faucet with a Moen. Nowadays some Moen faucets are manufactured in the U.S., some assembled here. Some have lifetime warranties for the original owner, some far more limited.

    Here's why:

    I really wanted to give cartridge replacement a shot, partly because I will need to unscrew a tilt-out drawer to undo the faucet, and partly out of perverse, cognitive-dissonance commitment: it took forever for me to figure out which allen wrench I needed, as the cartridge access faces the backsplash. However, once I got it out, I realized it just was not worth replacing. Kraus no longer supports this model, and I can get a Moen for little more than the price of an aftermarket cartridge that should fit. Kraus did generously offer to sell me a current model, at discount--with a genuine five-year warranty! I demurred politely.

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    Default Re: Faucet cartridge longevity

    Thanks for the update.

    It will likely be a good decision, even if the faucet you select has a shorter than 5 year warranty, as Moen parts are still available for 40 year old (or more) fixtures.

    (FWIW, my brother called Moen very recently for a 10 year old +/- kitchen faucet problem, they shipped the parts out free.)


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    Hello everyone,

    Great discussion on faucet cartridge longevity! At Aaron Services, we've dealt with a variety of faucet issues and have some insights that might help shed light on this topic.

    Cartridge Longevity:
    It's true that the lifespan of faucet cartridges can vary significantly based on the brand, model, and the quality of water in your area. Hard water, for instance, can be particularly harsh on plumbing fixtures, leading to quicker degradation of cartridges. It?s important to consider water treatment solutions if you're dealing with hard water to extend the life of your plumbing components.

    Choosing a Faucet:
    When choosing a new faucet or deciding whether to replace a cartridge, it's essential to consider both the quality of the product and the warranty offered. Brands like Moen and Delta not only provide quality products but also stand behind them with strong warranties, which can be a significant advantage.

    Installation Tips:
    Proper faucet installation and regular maintenance are key to extending the life of your faucets. Make sure that your faucet is installed correctly and that you regularly check for signs of wear or leaks. Sometimes, even a minor adjustment can significantly extend a faucet's life.

    When to Replace:
    If you find yourself frequently replacing parts or dealing with leaks, it might be more cost-effective in the long run to invest in a higher-quality faucet from a reputable manufacturer. This upfront investment can save you time and money on future repairs.

    Lastly, if you're facing recurring issues or need advice on a specific situation, our team at Aaron Services is always here to help with expert plumbing services. We understand the nuances of various installations and can provide tailored recommendations based on your needs.

    Thanks for sharing your experiences, and don't hesitate to reach out if you need professional advice!

    P.S. Also, for those interested in further optimizing their home water usage and saving on bills, I invite you to check out our Water Savings Calculator. This tool can help you understand how much you could save by switching to water-efficient fixtures, like low-flow faucets and showerheads. These small changes not only contribute to significant savings over time but also help in conserving a precious resource. Feel free to explore and see how adjusting your home fixtures can make an environmental and financial impact!

    Happy holidays and best wishes for your plumbing projects!


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    Default Re: Faucet cartridge longevity

    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron Services View Post
    Thanks for sharing your experiences, and don't hesitate to reach out if you need professional advice!
    Thank for sharing your perspective. As you seem to be deeply invested in the plumbing world as I am in electrical, I'd like your perspective on another matter.

    First question: how common has it been since the early 1990s for a residence's interior water lines to be run in copper (or other metallic systems)?

    Second question: how commonly have you run into water lines with trickle current running along them?

    Third question: how commonly do you encounter interior metal water lines with metal ground wires coming from receptacles and bonded to them?

    NFPA 73, Electrical Inspection of Existing Dwellings, has a May deadline for comments on the first draft of its next, 2025, edition. One of my PIs would have required bonding around interruptions in metallic interior water lines, such as nonmetallic tubing or pipe, or push fittings that don't maintain electrical continuity. I plan to offer a comment modifying the PI, so that with luck it will be accepted. However, permission to run a ground wire from an ungrounded receptacle and replace with with a three-prong receptacle was eliminated in the 1993 NEC. The concern was that if the grounding path through the plumbing line was interrupted, a ground fault would not trip the overcurrent device but would leave the plumbing energized. I don't know how much of a risk remains.

    I'd appreciate your thoughts.


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    Default Re: Faucet cartridge longevity

    David, they are posting boilerplate in various categories.

    I noticed the first one down in the homeowner section yesterday, I think it was. Then the current two posts today.

    I would be surprised if you get an answer and a conversation going, but we will find out.

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