p-trap - InspectionNews

Jeff Eastman · #1 (**permalink**) 09-12-2007, 02:10 PM

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Richard Moore · #2 (**permalink**) 09-12-2007, 03:05 PM

I'd say that if you can't see it with the naked eye...and I can't...then, yes, it's too damn small!

Richard Rushing · #3 (**permalink**) 09-12-2007, 04:35 PM

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Billy Stephens · #4 (**permalink**) 09-12-2007, 05:27 PM

Jeff,

Thanks for the Laugh!

Stay Tuned for the come backs. Baby bumpers,Wife said too big, Larger size made him feel, ect. ect ect.

The way the mini - trap connects at the top looks like it's (should I say it) nope askew.

Looks like a leaker when system is at capacity.

Jim Luttrall · #5 (**permalink**) 09-12-2007, 05:35 PM

Did this have the ADA protectors on the drain as well as the supply lines?
Those can really disguise the dimensions.

Jeff Eastman · #6 (**permalink**) 09-12-2007, 05:49 PM

No ADA anywhere I could visibly see.

Thanks, I 'll write it up as an improperly sized trap system.

Jerry Peck · #7 (**permalink**) 09-12-2007, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Eastman

No ADA anywhere I could visibly see.

Thanks, I 'll write it up as an improperly sized trap system.

I would not say "improperly sized trap" as that trap looks to be "properly sized".

I would simply state improperly trapped, which includes the tailpiece (lack thereof) and improper bends. Unless that is an actual approved trap system, those 90 degree bends should have a larger radius to them - those look like pressure fittings, not DWV fittings - not the trap is glued up into the 90 degree elbow above, creating a lip to catch debris on and clog the trap (unless this is actually an approved trap system, in which case the inside of the 90 elbow above would be reduce to match up with the inside of the piece below.

Dom D'Agostino · #8 (**permalink**) 09-13-2007, 06:34 AM

I'm surprised you guys have never seen this before, it is a very common off-set tailpiece/trap assembly for wheelchair applications. Typically found in commercial buildings following ADA requirements for clear space below the sink.

Here is one version:

Click here for specs

Dom.

Victor DaGraca · #9 (**permalink**) 09-13-2007, 07:31 AM

Ok.... look at the enclosed pic.

"s" trap
"p" trap
and..... once it goes through the wall......and does a 90*......??????

Or....Does the 7" horizontal arm make it a "P" trap?

BARRY ADAIR · #10 (**permalink**) 09-13-2007, 09:02 AM

I've inspected 3 homes that were ADA converted at all locations.

The potential purchasers at one were concerned about the conversions meeting current codes and wanted the city to disallow so the sellers would have to pay and make the perceived repairs or adjust the sales price.

City told 'em to p up a rope.

I just scratched my head and thought to myself look for another house if these modifications bother you.

Why bother entering into a contract if you don't like the house in it's current condition? I'm never surprised as to what or how people think anymore.

Joshua Hardesty · #11 (**permalink**) 09-17-2007, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Victor DaGraca

Ok.... look at the enclosed pic.

"s" trap
"p" trap
and..... once it goes through the wall......and does a 90*......??????

Or....Does the 7" horizontal arm make it a "P" trap?

An "S" trap goes down, then goes up, then goes down again before reaching a vent within the required distances. (i.e., a 1.5" "P" trap with an 8 foot horizontal span is still an "S" trap, just not as obvious as the "S" traps you can buy at Lowes.)

Nuffin' wrong with the P-trap, except...

It could possibly be a crown vent, if the distance from the trap to the vent is less than twice the pipe diameter. But that's hard to tell from the photo.

So, if there's a vent in the wall not too far away, but at least 2.5" away for a 1.25" trap, or 3" away for a 1.5" trap, that configuration is fine.

Jerry Peck · #12 (**permalink**) 09-17-2007, 08:15 PM

I've been keeping my eye out and looking at the traps at sinks in toilet stalls at various places and, yep, I guess I just never paid much attention to them, but those are the types used for accessible toilet stalls and the like.

Just saw another one today and thought 'how could I have not noticed them before?' Oh well, I didn't.