|
|
|
Welcome to the InspectionNews - Home Inspection forums.
You are currently viewing InspectionNews as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions but not pictures. There are over 6,300 inspectors who have already joined. By joining InspectionNews you will be able to see the pictures, have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast and simple so please, join InspectionNews today!
If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.
Why join InspectionNews? Read the Testimonials
|
|

12-06-2007, 10:58 PM
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Oregon
Posts: 661
|
|
|
Hot/Cold reversed - do you call it?
I always have due to the chance of a child or elderly person (or anyone) scalding themselves by just turning it more to what they think is cold, thus getting burned more and faster.
I'm just wondering what you all do?
|
|

12-06-2007, 11:07 PM
|
 |
Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 677
|
|
|
Re: Hot/Cold reversed - do you call it?
I mention it, not as a repair item but more as an informational item. I don't want to establish myself as inspecting ALL fixtures for proper hot/cold connections. I don't as a rule check toilets for cold water connections but I'll report it if I happen to notice one.
__________________
"Baseball is like church. Many attend but few understand." Leo Durocher
Bruce Breedlove
www.avaloninspection.com
|
|

12-07-2007, 12:10 AM
|
 |
Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: San Mateo, CA
Posts: 1,107
|
|
|
Re: Hot/Cold reversed - do you call it?
Bruce, in all due respect why would you not confirm all hot & cold water supply faucets for proper alignment?
|
|

12-07-2007, 12:58 AM
|
 |
Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 831
|
|
|
Re: Hot/Cold reversed - do you call it?
Yes, always call it. Safety first above all else. REversed also indicates non pro work which I also indicate possibility of.
|
|

12-07-2007, 05:15 AM
|
 |
Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Main Line, PA
Posts: 277
|
|
|
Re: Hot/Cold reversed - do you call it?
Check every Faucet and Fixture.
If the Water Heater is non-Functional due to utilities off or isolated, a notation in the report is made that the fixtures could not be checked and must be reviewed at a Later Date (prior to closing).
|
|

12-07-2007, 05:32 AM
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Columbus GA
Posts: 387
|
|
|
Re: Hot/Cold reversed - do you call it?
"I mention it, not as a repair item but more as an informational item"
It is a repair item
" P2722.2 Hot water. Fixture fittings and faucets that are supplied
with both hot and cold water shall be installed and
adjusted so that the left-hand side of thewater temperature control
represents the flow of hot water when facing the outlet. Exception: Shower and tub/shower mixing valves conforming
to ASSE 1016 or CSA B125, where the water temperature
control corresponds to the markings on the device."
__________________
Rick Cantrell
Columbus GA
|
|

12-07-2007, 06:17 AM
|
 |
Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: South Florida
Posts: 216
|
|
|
Re: Hot/Cold reversed - do you call it?
From the Florida Building Code, aka the IRC:
607.4 Hot water supply to fixtures. The hot water supply
to any fixture requiring hot water shall be installed on the
left side of the fixture.
I have had two new homes that I inspected that the plumber got everything back wards. The builder came in with a magic marker and wrote H and C on the escutcheons.
I ended up having my client call the AHJ and after quite a bit of arguing and the threat of lawsuits, both homes had to be re-plumbed.
When I check for this, I feel the pipe while the hot water is running. If the left side is cold, then the piping is wrong, which can be very expensive to fix.
If the pipe is correct and it is a single throw handle, I correct it at the faucet.
__________________
Eric Van De Ven Magnum Inspections Inc. (954) 340-6615
www.magnuminspections.com
I still get paid to be suspicious when I got nothing to be suspicious about!
|
|

12-07-2007, 06:17 AM
|
 |
Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 1,155
|
|
|
Re: Hot/Cold reversed - do you call it?
Learned the hard way:
When you see reversed hot/cold somewhere, check for hot water at toilets, hose bibs and refrigerator ice-makers, reversed hot/cold at the washer, and cold water at the dishwasher. HW at a humidifier may be OK, check the manufacturer's installation instructions.
|
|

12-07-2007, 07:22 AM
|
 |
Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Corpus Christi, TX
Posts: 582
|
|
|
Re: Hot/Cold reversed - do you call it?
Early on I got into the habit of reporting that the hot/cold orientation was correct at all faucets. It's one of those things that reminds me that I'm there to tell them as much as I can about the house, not just what is wrong.
__________________
The only reason some people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory.
- Paul Fix
|
|

12-07-2007, 07:35 AM
|
 |
Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Spring Hill (Nashville), TN
Posts: 1,752
|
|
|
Re: Hot/Cold reversed - do you call it?
Yes, I report it as needing correction.
I have also found that is becoming more and more common for some reason on homes that have been plumbed with PEX. With the common PEX colors (Red, Blue, White) it is easy for the lines to get mixed, especially when they intermix the colors with the intent of Blue being for Cold and Red for Hot. Then the plumber runs out of one color and subs the other.
|
|

12-07-2007, 07:45 AM
|
 |
Member
|
|
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Ridgeland, MS
Posts: 39
|
|
|
Re: Hot/Cold reversed - do you call it?
When I see it I call it out. It's in the 2006 Bible of Residential Shoulds and Should Nots for health and safety of the public...bla,bla,bla
My silly brother says he changed his in his home because he's left handed, so he installed it backwards. HA!
GS
|
|

12-07-2007, 07:48 AM
|
 |
Member
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Rockwall Texas
Posts: 2,398
|
|
|
Re: Hot/Cold reversed - do you call it?
Hot on the left / cold on the right.
If not, I write it up as a repair.
rick
|
|

12-07-2007, 07:56 AM
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 7
|
|
|
Re: Hot/Cold reversed - do you call it?
Its wrong - so why would you not report it.
Seems about 15 years or so ago, a baby girl got scalded badly when her 7 year old sister tried to give her a bath in a fixture with this type condition. Everybody paid many $$$$$ to stay out of court. Everybody being the plumber, builder, inspector, seller, agent that referred inspector. If memory serves me correctly they even included the city codes dept and they paid to stay out of public eye.
Dan's Simple Rule #1 - Is it right or wrong?? Could it be a big deal or not??
Do I like the client well enough to wanta pay for this if I don't mention it and they later come back on me??
Then I write it up!! That often ends up with me being called nitpicky by agents, sellers, builders, etc. My simple response is "Did I lie"??
To me this is just doing what you are being paid to do #1;
Its like saying "Your grandma has gray hair"; You're not being nitpicky, you're just describing whats there OR not there #2;
AND #3 you're learning self protection and practicing the manly art of CYA.
When someone says to me "How have you made it through 28 years of inspecting and never been sued"?? Rule #1 is where it starts.
|
|

12-07-2007, 01:36 PM
|
 |
Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Junction City, KS
Posts: 121
|
|
|
Re: Hot/Cold reversed - do you call it?
It's wrong, you know it's wrong, and yet you don't report it? Why wouldn't it need repair,,,,it's wrong?
Hot and Cold should not be refersed. I personally check e v e r y faucet for this defect. To do less would be irresponsible in my opinion,,,but thats just me.
__________________
If I had two faces, would I be wearing this one?
Abraham Lincoln
|
|

12-07-2007, 05:20 PM
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Michigan
Posts: 157
|
|
|
Re: Hot/Cold reversed - do you call it?
I am in agreement that this should be charted as a needed repair. Unless, of course, one does not mind driving on the road with those that think they should be driving on the opposite side of the road ... oops - drifting there - sorry.
|
|
| Thread Tools |
Search this Thread |
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
| Thread |
Thread Starter |
Forum |
Replies |
Last Post |
| what do you call |
dan orourke |
Building Envelope: Home Inspection and Commercial Inspection |
16 |
12-10-2007 07:47 PM |
| what to call |
Jeff Eastman |
Plumbing System: Home Inspection and Commercial Inspection |
5 |
11-19-2007 07:13 PM |
| Cold temperatures lead to early season chimney fire - The Coloradoan |
Brian Hannigan |
Fireplaces, Chimneys and Solid Fuel Burning Appliances: Home Inspection and Commercial Inspection |
0 |
10-08-2007 01:30 PM |
| Cold air return |
Bill Emelander |
Heating, Ventilation, Air Conditioning (HVAC): Home Inspection and Commercial Inspection |
9 |
08-09-2007 09:57 AM |
| Cold joint? |
Jeff Eastman |
Structural Components: Home Inspection and Commercial Inspection |
2 |
08-05-2007 02:28 AM |
All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:50 AM.
| | |
|