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Old 02-08-2008, 01:45 PM
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Protection from car hitting water heater
Is there code that requires a balun or some kind of protection to prevent a car from striking a water heater, especially a gas water heater?

On a recent inspection, the gas water heater was at the front part of the garage and had nor protection to prevent a car from hitting it. I am thinking this is an accident (explosion) waiting to happen.

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Old 02-08-2008, 02:25 PM
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Re: Protection from car hitting water heater
Yes, protection from vehicle damage in a garage is required.
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Old 02-08-2008, 02:35 PM
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Re: Protection from car hitting water heater
Robert,

A bollard is required, but it is to protect the gas piping from vehicle damage. This would be true for any gas piping if it is in a location that it could be hit by a vehicle. This might also mean the furnace or gas meter as well. Unfortunately, I am unable to locate the specific code. Maybe someone else will chime in.
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Old 02-08-2008, 02:38 PM
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Re: Protection from car hitting water heater
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Is there code that requires a balun or some kind of protection to prevent a car from striking a water heater, especially a gas water heater?

On a recent inspection, the gas water heater was at the front part of the garage and had nor protection to prevent a car from hitting it. I am thinking this is an accident (explosion) waiting to happen.

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As others have said, Yes you need protection.

Now I have a question? What is a 'balun", I have not heard that term.
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Old 02-08-2008, 04:07 PM
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Re: Protection from car hitting water heater
I meant to say bollard - that is the correct term. A balun is used in video for changing from one type of cable to another. Sorry about the confusion.
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Old 02-08-2008, 05:05 PM
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Found it (I think)

2000 IRC: 1307.3.1
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Old 02-08-2008, 05:23 PM
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Re: Protection from car hitting water heater
Can someone post a picture of a water heater that actually has a bollard in front of it?

I've never seen one. I understand its need but it is something that is not enforced here the any AHJ I know of.

The picture could be a reference for us to show clients.

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Old 02-08-2008, 06:45 PM
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Can someone post a picture of a water heater that actually has a bollard in front of it?

I've never seen one. I understand its need but it is something that is not enforced here the any AHJ I know of.

The picture could be a reference for us to show clients.

Thanks in advance. rick
Rick,

Someone will likely have to "Photoshop" the image. I've been looking, but have never seen one ... even though required. Like you say the AHJ just does not enforce that.
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Old 02-08-2008, 07:08 PM
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Rick,

I will look, but no guarantees. I generally do not take pics of things that are correct.
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Old 02-08-2008, 07:17 PM
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Re: Protection from car hitting water heater
Rick is found this diagram that Jerry M. posted a while back on this thread:
bollard protection for water heater?

Not a picture of a correct one, but a couple of diagrams and an incorrect installation.
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Old 02-08-2008, 07:19 PM
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Robert,

A bollard is required, but it is to protect the gas piping from vehicle damage. This would be true for any gas piping if it is in a location that it could be hit by a vehicle.
Actually, gas piping be damned! , it is to protect the water heater, and any appliance.

And it does not need a "bollard", just "vehicle protection".

From the 2006 IRC. (underlining is mine)
- P2801.4 Prohibited locations.
Water heaters shall be located in accordance with Chapter 20.
- M2005.1 General.
Water heaters shall be installed in accordance with the manufacturer’s installation instructions and the requirements of this code.Water heaters installed in an attic shall conform to the requirements of Section M1305.1.3. Gas-fired water heaters shall conform to the requirements in Chapter 24. Domestic electric water heaters shall conform to UL 174 or UL 1453. Commercial electric water heaters shall conform to UL 1453. Oiled-fired water heaters shall conform to UL 732.

- M2005.3 Electric water heaters. Electric water heaters shall
also be installed in accordance with the applicable provisions of Chapters 33 through 42.


"manufacturer’s installation instructions" will tell you to protect it from vehicle damage if installed in a garage.

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Old 02-08-2008, 08:23 PM
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Re: Protection from car hitting water heater
My area has them now and pretty much has for the last 10 years or so. On construction prior to that they were pretty scarce.

In a cont. ed class once I was taught that they are supposed to also be in front of electric meters. Enforcement on that one is totally unheard of around here.
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Old 02-08-2008, 08:30 PM
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Rick,

I will look, but no guarantees. I generally do not take pics of things that are correct.

Gunnar,

If you don't have one don't worry. Next one you come across if you can remember to take me a picture and email it to me or post it to this thread.

I would appreciate it.

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Old 02-08-2008, 08:44 PM
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Re: Protection from car hitting water heater
From Jerry M's Post

Bollard Protection today.
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Old 02-08-2008, 09:01 PM
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Rick,

Here you go. The last one is the best of the lot. Actually, pretty good. I will email it too.
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Old 02-08-2008, 09:27 PM
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Re: Protection from car hitting water heater
Gunnar,

The 3rd photo is not filled with concrete. That pipe will just bend like a pretzel.
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Old 02-08-2008, 09:37 PM
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Gunnar,

Thanks for posting those.

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Old 02-08-2008, 10:53 PM
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Jerry,

Not if you tap it very lightly with a "SmartCar".

Rick,

You are welcome.
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Old 02-08-2008, 11:28 PM
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Re: Protection from car hitting water heater
To carry this a little further, how about "water heaters" used only as water storage tanks, the heating being done with a tankless coil in a boiler? Do these need vehicle protection? Also, do they need TPR's?
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Old 02-09-2008, 01:45 PM
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