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    Hello,
    I am about to buy a house. It is about 90 years old in New Jersey. I had it inspected but there was stuff in the attic at the time and the inspector couldn't see what I just saw when I stopped by. Part of the wall in the attic storage area is missing so I could see the floor (top of 2nd floor ceiling) and saw odd looking insulation. From my own search on line, I think it is Urea Formaldehyde Foam Insulation or UFFI Foam which would be okay because the dangerous fumes have all dissipated . My concern is maybe it is vermiculite with asbestos which is dangerous.
    I attached a picture. Any thoughts?

    Help would be greatly appreciated. My daughter wants to convert storage room into a playroom.

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    The pic is poor but it does not look like vermiculite to me.
    Yes it could be UFFI.

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    Default Re: strange looking insulation

    If it is UFFI pieces will break off very easily and crumble into a powder when rubbed between your fingers.


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    Default Re: strange looking insulation

    Looks like matted or wadded up fiberglass.

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    Default Re: strange looking insulation

    Not vermiculite.

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    Default Re: strange looking insulation

    Not UFFI (I have it in my own home) unless it has been removed from a wall cavity and bulk loaded to the attic.

    Not Vermiculite....

    Most likely Rock Wool which is a common type throughout PA & NJ for the age of the home.......


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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Hagarty View Post
    Not UFFI (I have it in my own home) unless it has been removed from a wall cavity and bulk loaded to the attic.

    Not Vermiculite....

    Most likely Rock Wool which is a common type throughout PA & NJ for the age of the home.......
    Doesn't look like any rockwool that I've come across (a lot). Looks like a big pile of foam over-spray from the pic. Either way, I think everyone agrees that it is not vermiculite.

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    Default Re: strange looking insulation

    Doesn't look like any vermiculite or rock wool I've encountered over the years. If you have time, why not take a small sample for lab analysis to a certified testing lab somewhere? Worst case scenario would involve sealing it all off with a heavy layer of visquine before installing a permanent flooring in the daughter's play area.


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    Default Re: strange looking insulation

    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Hagarty View Post
    Not UFFI (I have it in my own home) unless it has been removed from a wall cavity and bulk loaded to the attic.

    Not Vermiculite....

    Most likely Rock Wool which is a common type throughout PA & NJ for the age of the home.......
    All we have to go on is one poorly exposed picture. I know you have seen UFFI and RockwooI. I don't see how you can make that statement with any certainty whatsoever.

    Here is her picture and beside it a picture of UFFI in an attic. I don't need to post a pic of Rockwool, do I?

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