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    Default starter strips upside down

    Would a roofer have to redo the entire roof to fix this?

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    Default Re: starter strips upside down

    John
    The title is "starter strips upside down",
    but to me it does not appear to be using "starter strips".
    Many times the roofer will install the starter course upside down (which is incorrect), or cut the tabs off the starter course (acceptable), sometimes you may find a roofer install starter strips.
    But to answer your question;
    It is unlikely that the entire roof will need to be redone.
    Remove the starter and first course,
    reinstall the starter course and first course, this time correctly.
    The overhang looks long,
    may need to trim it up some.

    ' correct a wise man and you gain a friend... correct a fool and he'll bloody your nose'.

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    Default Re: starter strips upside down

    Quote Originally Posted by John Dirks Jr View Post
    Would a roofer have to redo the entire roof to fix this?
    If the shingles are nailed near or on the center line like they should be, it will be very hard to remove the first row without lifting the second and maybe third row too. Then those shingles are loose and the nails are hidden. If the soffits are open and they used long enough nails, they can be banged up a bit from below and then pried out. Damaging the rows above.
    A strip of metal flashing with some tar and a few nails to hold it, might be a solution I'd settle for if that was my mess.
    By the way, if those are 3-tab shingles, there is a gap every 13". With correctly laid starters or inverted 3-tabs, there is still a gap every 39". The only way to get it 100% right is a complete tearoff and redo. So the ball is in your court. Would you not just call for a repair and move on?


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    Default Re: starter strips upside down

    Would you not just call for a repair and move on?

    Yup, but I always like to know more for my own head. Just in case I wanna run my mouth you know.


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    Default Re: starter strips upside down

    Strangely I challenged this during one of my inspections and wrote it up.

    The realtor called for expertises from 2 roofers who both agreed it was acceptable.

    Strangely enough the rooffing association of Quebec training manual nor the manufacture recommend this type of installtion.

    Go figure

    I wrote is up as repair and left it at that.

    Will not be getting any referrals from him anytime soon i'm sure..........


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    Default Re: starter strips upside down

    a complete tear off to remedy the starter course of shingles seems excessive. If the rest of the roof has no issues then just redo the first course and any shingles damaged while you are fixing that course.


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    Default Re: starter strips upside down

    From my experience it is extremely difficult to not damage the course above while removing the course below. In fact, it may require a feat of magic to do it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PacificInspect View Post
    From my experience it is extremely difficult to not damage the course above while removing the course below. In fact, it may require a feat of magic to do it.

    Actually not hard at all. Have done it many a time.

    Just have to know what you are doing is all.

    Would be nice, though, to know who you are and where you are. Or are you in the Pacific Ocean inspecting the bottom of the sea?

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    Default Re: starter strips upside down

    Pictures not that clear but you may be able to solve some the over hang problem by adding aluminum flashing/drip edge.


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    Default Re: starter strips upside down

    Quote Originally Posted by PacificInspect View Post
    From my experience it is extremely difficult to not damage the course above while removing the course below. In fact, it may require a feat of magic to do it.

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    Default Re: starter strips upside down

    Actually not hard at all. Have done it many a time.
    JP: So then, does that also mean you have installed them backwards "many a time"?


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