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    Is flashing needed at this point on the roof?

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    Yes, the flashing coming out from the bottom of the siding (eifs?) should be on top of the shingles and it looks like it's beneath. And the upper edge where there is no siding should be flashed. In most cases the exposed nails are a dead give away that something is wrong.


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    RS: No, but the nail heads must be sealed.
    RS: Oops, caught me multi-tasking - and lying. I was enrolling in CEU courses for the TREC and the TDA, talking on the phone, and only looking at part of the picture. The knee (side) wall does need to be cap or counter flashed.

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    Yes, there should be drip mold inverted to catch the leading edge of the shingles and nails sealed for best practice.

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    The area below the stucco siding is flashed but I am concerned about the area just to the left of the stucco siding. It is not flashed and I wanted to make sure that it should be. It does have a drip edge but no flashing under the shingles. As far as I know this needs to have flashing as well. Correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Stouffer View Post
    The area below the stucco siding is flashed
    It doesn't look correct. The picture sure looks like the flashing is under the top course of shingles. It should lay on top and be at least a couple inches down the face of the roof to keep rain from blowing underneath it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Stouffer View Post
    The area below the stucco siding is flashed but I am concerned about the area just to the left of the stucco siding. It is not flashed and I wanted to make sure that it should be. It does have a drip edge but no flashing under the shingles. As far as I know this needs to have flashing as well.
    Yes. Not sure what it is called, but I call it cap flashing or angle flashing that is installed over the leading edge of the shingles and extends down over the fascia.

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    I believe a quick peek under the top shingle and you would see your flashing.

    It is common practice (I did not say best practice) to run the shigles all the way to the wall or ridge, then flash as others have stated should be done. Then often times (as I believe is the case here) the roofer adds the last run on top of the flashing so it will not be seen.

    So my thought is that if the roofing does extend to the very top of the ridge and the drip edge is installed over it, then the "cap" is installed for esthetics, it is flashed.

    There does appear to be a hole where the flashing on the wall does not extend all the way to the corner.


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    I actually pulled the shingles up at the ends where the picture is showing and it is definitely not flashed. It is flashed correctly just below the stucco but again my question is: Does it need to be flashed on the ends of the roof where there is no wall coming down to meet the roof?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunnar Alquist View Post
    Yes.
    Gunnar has already given you the short answer .


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Luttrall View Post
    Yes, there should be drip mold inverted to catch the leading edge of the shingles and nails sealed for best practice.
    Thought that I answered your question this morning.

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    Chris, I just saw your reply and did not see anyone else's. I see them now though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Stouffer View Post
    I actually pulled the shingles up at the ends where the picture is showing and it is definitely not flashed. It is flashed correctly just below the stucco but again my question is: Does it need to be flashed on the ends of the roof where there is no wall coming down to meet the roof?

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    Yes, the top course of shingles should have an "L" flashing covering the top portion of the shingle and the top of the fascia on the other side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Stouffer View Post
    I actually pulled the shingles up at the ends where the picture is showing and it is definitely not flashed. It is flashed correctly just below the stucco but again my question is: Does it need to be flashed on the ends of the roof where there is no wall coming down to meet the roof?

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    Ryan
    Now I'm really lost..... You pulled the shingles up and it's not flashed but it's flashed correctly??????

    Is there flashing under the top course of shingles that curiously ends beneath the stucco and is not in place beneath the open end? Is it as someone earlier stated, that the top course of shingles are glued on top of the flashing (picture doesn't look to be so) ?

    You seem to convinced that the stucco to roof seam is flashed properly just because there is some metal there. Anyone can just go nail metal on a roof and call if flashing.


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    Here's a good visual for you....

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    He is asking about the short section to the left and Gunar answered it succinctly.


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    Matt, just read what I wrote. The ends of the roof are the areas in question. Not the area beneath the stucco. What's so confusing about that?


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    If I'm seeing this right, it's a shed type roof that does not terminate at a wall. Typically a stick of ODE at minimum at the top of the wall. Preferably a shop fabricated piece of flashing the covers the fascia with a drip kick.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Stouffer View Post
    The area below the stucco siding is flashed but I am concerned about the area just to the left of the stucco siding. It is not flashed and I wanted to make sure that it should be. It does have a drip edge but no flashing under the shingles. As far as I know this needs to have flashing as well. Correct?

    Thanks,

    Ryan
    RS: As I said before, there is no requirement for flashing there. As JL said earlier, best practice would have one installed there.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Stouffer View Post
    Matt, just read what I wrote. The ends of the roof are the areas in question. Not the area beneath the stucco. What's so confusing about that?
    Nothing confusing except for it looks wrong and you've given no indication that you know that or that you verified it's right.


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    I don't know if it is right or wrong. That is why I posted it.

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    Ryan. if you are still with us, there are at least two flashing issues in those pics. Gunnar answered your question about the left portion and AD says it is not required but desirable.

    The other and bigger issue is that the section butting up to the stucco lacks flashing. There is a shingle edge and a row of nails there that should be under a flashing, that comes out from behind the stucco, no?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Stouffer View Post
    Is flashing needed at this point on the roof?

    Thanks,

    Ryan
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Stouffer View Post
    Matt, just read what I wrote. The ends of the roof are the areas in question. Not the area beneath the stucco. What's so confusing about that?

    Ryan,

    What's so confusing about that?"

    What you wrote is so confusing about that.

    you left it wide open as to what you were referring to when you said "at this point on the roof" ... *I* presumed you were referring to the wall area at the right ... NOT the top of the shed roof area (or ridge is there is another roof down the other side).

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    Here is a detail that I guessing Ryan is looking for. From what I've deduced from this thread is that there is a flashing installed at the stucco roof intersect with shingles installed on the flashing to hide it, I've seen this but do not recommend it. There should be a flashing installed at the ridge not only to protect the fascia and top edge of the roof but the stucco corner.

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