Thread: today's 3 year old roof

here's a nice one on a 1 mill home. water stains at interior walls and ceilings and owner says "has never seen a leak in 3 years".
"It's OK and you can write it up as not leaking"
Yeah, sure thing

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Is that vinyl siding on the house?

Originally Posted by wayne soper

here's a nice one on a 1 mill home. water stains at interior walls and ceilings and owner says "has never seen a leak in 3 years".
"It's OK and you can write it up as not leaking"
Yeah, sure thing

Shingles installed vertically on a dead valley cricket, how could it possibly leak?

Originally Posted by James Duffin

Is that vinyl siding on the house?

No J-channel along the rake or at the boxing. I see a crown at the boxing/siding transition, so defiantly not vinyl siding. Weather it is wood, composite or fiber cement it should not be sitting on the shingles.

You can see better than me....thanks

The "woofer" played the hand he was dealt.

Badly.

However, the game was rigged by whoever designed the house.

Looks like hardi-plank.

it's wood. it,s leaking, and the roofer figured "ah who's gonna climb all the way up here on a 25 foot ladder to find this mess".
The inspector who did the house for the present owner didn't.
SOP says you don't need a ladder over 13 feet
Yeah, right!!
Found water stains 2 storys down in the garage

Originally Posted by wayne soper

it's wood. it,s leaking, and the roofer figured "ah who's gonna climb all the way up here on a 25 foot ladder to find this mess".
The inspector who did the house for the present owner didn't.
SOP says you don't need a ladder over 13 feet
Yeah, right!!
Found water stains 2 storys down in the garage

Most posters here want to do an outstanding job for their client.

Everyone has their own tolerance for risk.

My opinion - as someone who took and survived a 2-1/2 story fall of a roof as a young man (fortunately, down through thick trees) - is that there is no way to safely get onto (and especially back off of) that roof with so little ladder projecting above roof edge.

(And, is the top of that ladder tied off - I can't tell for sure from the picture?)

Unless the previous inspector was properly equipped to provide reasonably safe access to that area of the roof (which looks to me like it would require a minimum of a 28' ladder, or perhaps a 24' with step-through safety bars) I can't fault them for not having done so.

And in the meantime, I encourage all readers to reevaluate whether accessing any roof beyond reasonably safe access with our equipment is ever worth the risk.

As my wife likes to point out: "Dead inspectors never finish the report."

MT,

Yep, and as further evidenced by the foot print size depression and cracked (improperly shingled, flashed, etc.) shingles valley just to right of the leaning to one-side, not level, ladder.

Shouldn't be stepping or standing within 2'feet of the valley even if roofing/flashing properly installed.

"Dead men tell no tales" That includes produce no inspection reports. Mrs. Thomas has that right!

The ladder looks vertical (side to side) to me, as the top rung appears to be parallel to the eave.

Wayne was there, I was not, and risk is a personal decision.

It's just that in my experience for anything short of an orangatang it's pretty difficult to get on and off roofs safely with that little ladder projecting above the roof.

Thank you Sherlock and Watson, I know that no good deed goes unpunished. That ladder was set on top of a picnic table on top of a second story deck truth be told
While the broker in high heels footed it, and texted, and ate a sandwich.

I'll remember to keep the ladder photo out next time

By the way Watson, what size do you deduct that footprint to be?

I actually prefer to crab down to the roof edge and get on the ladder. It takes the possible trip out of the equation. Doing it that way, it is easier to get on the ladder with a short overhang. Just my way. Low and slow.
Now, I am guilty of lack of tie downs and Michael you have convinced me that an upgrade is due, so thankyou!!

I agree, Michael and HG, that ladder looks unsafe. But the roof is leaking and the client needs answers, not just a shrug and a maybe.

I sometimes have used my camera pole (12' paint pole) while standing on the ladder. That's still pretty risky, because you need to let go of the ladder to manipulate the pole.

Something as simple as a bungy cord hooked around the ladder and the trough can make a world of difference when climbing back on. That and a couple more feet sticking out above the gutter. Anyway, thanks, Wayne, you gotter done.

Originally Posted by wayne soper

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and ate a sandwich.

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What Kind of Sandwich ?
* was it a Bacon Sandwich ?
** I Like Bacon Sandwiches.
*** Can I eat one while on a Ladder ?
**** ( and some think you're a JA ! )
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Why it was Straight Memphis barbeque there Billy, She had so much sauce on her that she looked like a table cloth at the white house after the presidents birthday.
Maybe that's where I was. Was I on the roof of the white house. Oh no, FLASHBACK!!
Hey Billy, Nice to see your face, Hope everything is OK down there!!!

Originally Posted by wayne soper

SOP says you don't need a ladder over 13 feet

Wow Wayne; you got some tough SOP's there in CT.

New Jersey only required an 11 foot ladder!

looks like wallingford