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    Default Insurance Requesting Roof Rating

    I had a client ask for a roof rating to satisfy a request from their homeowner's insurance. I'm guessing it's an impact resistance rating they're looking for. Is there an easy way to tell - based on thickness of the shingles or something?

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    Default Re: Insurance Requesting Roof Rating

    Could be a fire resistance rating. That pops up here from time to time. No way to tell by looking at the shingles that I'm aware of. The packaging would have that information. Not familiar with any impact ratings, so no help for you if that's what they're after. Better get more info from the insurance company.

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    Default Re: Insurance Requesting Roof Rating

    I'm with Jim as to the insurance company probably looking for a fire resistance rating.

    If your area has a building department you can check on a permit and what was installed, the manufacturer's information should be able to lead you to a fire resistance rating.

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    Default Re: Insurance Requesting Roof Rating

    The permit doesn't list what materials were used, but I'm contacting the contractor to see if they keep records of that.

    Thanks for the help!

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    Default Re: Insurance Requesting Roof Rating

    Regional differences are funny.... around here (Oregon) all the insurance companies care about is moss.


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    Default Re: Insurance Requesting Roof Rating

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Harcek View Post
    I had a client ask for a roof rating to satisfy a request from their homeowner's insurance. I'm guessing it's an impact resistance rating they're looking for. Is there an easy way to tell - based on thickness of the shingles or something?
    Ask the insurance company exactly what they want. Don't guess.......

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    Default Re: Insurance Requesting Roof Rating

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Fellman View Post
    Regional differences are funny.... around here (Oregon) all the insurance companies care about is moss.
    Matt,

    Moss? On a fiberglass shingle? Does it really matter or are they thinking that the amount of moss indicates age?

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    Default Re: Insurance Requesting Roof Rating

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunnar Alquist View Post
    Matt,

    Moss? On a fiberglass shingle? Does it really matter or are they thinking that the amount of moss indicates age?
    That's a great questions and I don't know..... I've never had it come up at my own house (because I'm an anal HI and treat my roof every year ) but have heard about it from buyers and agents many times. I'd guess it's just because it's something easy to complain about from a "drive-by". I suppose it might be because it's just a sign of neglected maintenance.

    When it gets really bad it causes water to pond like ice dams and can lead to leaks. It gets super bad sometimes when there's lots of shade.

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    Default Re: Insurance Requesting Roof Rating

    Matt,

    Those aren't photos of fiberglass shingles with moss on them ... those are photos of moss farming on limited land area so the roof areas were used for moss farming too.

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    Default Re: Insurance Requesting Roof Rating

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Harcek View Post
    I had a client ask for a roof rating to satisfy a request from their homeowner's insurance. I'm guessing it's an impact resistance rating they're looking for. Is there an easy way to tell - based on thickness of the shingles or something?
    In Florida, they want to know the sheating thickness, nail or staple length and spacing, type and approximate age of shingles. See wind Mitigation.


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    Default Re: Insurance Requesting Roof Rating

    In Oklahoma, some of my Clients are asking about the impact-resistance classification (Class 1, Class 2, Class 3, Class 4) of the product under U.L. Standard 2218. Insurance companies are giving discounts for the higher ratings.


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    Default Re: Insurance Requesting Roof Rating

    I would ask the insurance company exactly what they want and why and then play CYA like nobodies business. I agree they are looking for a way to not pay, like usual.

    My experience with moss as a general contractor and HI is that moss will eat the life out of the shingles in short order. It does not matter if the mat is the old school felt or fiberglass, moss will ruin it for sure, the roots will destroy it all. Algae on the other hand looks bad and won't harm anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Kerce View Post
    In Oklahoma, some of my Clients are asking about the impact-resistance classification (Class 1, Class 2, Class 3, Class 4) of the product under U.L. Standard 2218. Insurance companies are giving discounts for the higher ratings.
    Is this for hail resistance in tornado alley?


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    Default Re: Insurance Requesting Roof Rating

    Yes. My insurance company will discount Coverage A by 15% if the roof has a Class IV impact rating. I always refer my Clients back to the home owner for manufacture's information on the roof installed.


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    Default Re: Insurance Requesting Roof Rating

    Pass on that request. There is no way to look at an installed composition shingle and determine any rating. I have IR shingles, but without the documentation, you'd have to tear one off to know it.

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