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    Default Different type of ladder. User issues? or design flaw?

    I know there are lots of ladder threads however this question may be slightly different. I currently have two multi-purpose locking ratchet type ladders, one is a Werner Brand and one is Little Giant. Both great ladders from proven designs. I saw an apartment maintenance man using a telescopic ladder. He said he used it because it was easier to carry down the hallways of the apartment building. I sometimes wish I had a ladder that was easier to carry and I have wanted a telescopic but have heard the stories about the ladder collapsing, etc. I wonder if the issues with telescopic ladders are more about the user? or is the design inherently flawed ? If the issues are pilot-error, then I might be inclined to purchase one. but if the issues are design, then I likely won't.

    I noticed Werner and Little Giant don't offer a telescopic ladder. I wonder if there is a message in that they don't offer the telescopic ladder.

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    Default Re: Different type of ladder. User issues? or design flaw?

    I use my LG most of the time, but I have (and use) a Telesteps for those hard to navigate closet hatches that occasionally pop up. You know the ones, very cramped, full of clothes, can't set an "A" frame ladder in there properly. I like it, it works great when I need it.

    For exterior or roof access, it's the LG. For those 12 foot garage scuttles, it's the LG.

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    Default Re: Different type of ladder. User issues? or design flaw?

    I have an Xtend & Climb. Usually twice a week on average for 10 years? Only problem is the release is broken/missing from the lowest rung so cant open all the way or will never close. Been limping along fine for a decade. Cant justify $200 for a new one.

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    Default Re: Different type of ladder. User issues? or design flaw?

    I don't have telescopic ladder but have read the horror stories of ladder failure which has kept me away.
    But here is food for thought; basically every multipurpose ladder has two hinge latches which are redundant, two or four extension locks (depending on use) which are readily visible and over engineered in addition to be redundant.
    From my admitted sheltered view the telescopic ladders all have multiple latches, two on every step which in my mind are hidden and do not appear to be redundant.
    So by my math, a telescopic ladder of moderate height, say 10 steps giving a 11' length has 20 hidden potential failure points vs 3 (assuming the redundancy factor) or over 6.6 times the potential failure.

    "I" would rather watch fewer failure points and trust the heavier ladder even if it is a little less handy.

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    Default Re: Different type of ladder. User issues? or design flaw?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce Ramsey View Post
    I have an Xtend & Climb. Usually twice a week on average for 10 years? Only problem is the release is broken/missing from the lowest rung so cant open all the way or will never close. Been limping along fine for a decade. Cant justify $200 for a new one.
    I have had a few X&C's and have never had an issue. It is my go to ladder. I also have a few LG and one Gorilla .


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    Default Re: Different type of ladder. User issues? or design flaw?

    I have used all of the above and prefer the LG.
    The telescoping ladder latches doe not feel secure but i use one occasionally when conditions dictate.

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    Default Re: Different type of ladder. User issues? or design flaw?

    Bought a Telesteps 11 years ago, still good. I've kept it clean for interior work only, so seldom goes over 8 feet above the floor. Also I'm a lightweight, 170 lbs or so.
    Occasionally I've gone out on a top floor balcony with the Telesteps to reach the roof of an apartment building. Would you do that with an LG? Maybe, lug it up the stairs or into the elevator.

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    Default Re: Different type of ladder. User issues? or design flaw?

    I referred to my Telesteps ladder as a "wet noodle" ... and I only went up that wet noodle 3-4 times when I finally said enough was enough.

    The LG was the ladder to use, 17 footer and 26 footer.

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    Default Re: Different type of ladder. User issues? or design flaw?

    I'm with JP. I find the telescoping ladders flex too much for my liking. I want something solid under me when I am risking my neck and getting on a roof.

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    Default Re: Different type of ladder. User issues? or design flaw?

    Well ! Have the Xtend & Climb Type 1A 300 lbs and it doesn't flex any more than my Gorilla or Little Giants do.
    And I'm 6'1" and 235 lbs.
    All my ladders are 1A type 300 lbs.


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    Default Re: Different type of ladder. User issues? or design flaw?

    Thanks, Roy.
    X&C ladders have a very secure latching system. One thing the Telesteps has is the feature where you can collapse the whole ladder by releasing the bottom 2 latches, one each side, plop, the ladder collapses. I have faith in mine, but can see that a flaw would be catastrophic.

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    Default Re: Different type of ladder. User issues? or design flaw?

    It was not the latches I was commenting on.

    I didn't have a problem with the latches.

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