Composite Roofing material??

**Reis Pearson** · 09-01-2008, 07:09 AM

I've never seen this before and have a very bad feeling about it! Anyone ever seen this material and can you give me some insight. Home was 1992 and this looks like pressboard.

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**wayne soper** · 09-01-2008, 08:01 AM

google woodruff roofing

Ron Bibler · 09-01-2008, 08:22 AM

That looks like siding.

Ron

**Reis Pearson** · 09-01-2008, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by wayne soper

google woodruff roofing

How would you write it up if you weren't certain it was Woodruff? I've never touched/seen Woodruff and when I googled I didn't find any photos to confirm, although description alone sounds like it.

Any help is appreciated!
Thanks,
Reis

**Jim Luttrall** · 09-01-2008, 08:41 AM

The synthetic roof system is in bad shape, replace it.

"KISS - Keep It Simple S____." Insert your favorite "s" word, saint, stupid,...

**Scott Patterson** · 09-01-2008, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by Reis Pearson

How would you write it up if you weren't certain it was Woodruff? I've never touched/seen Woodruff and when I googled I didn't find any photos to confirm, although description alone sounds like it.

Any help is appreciated!
Thanks,
Reis

Well, if you don't know what it is the best course of action is to say so. Telly your client that you have never seen this type of roofing material, but the research that you have done is not painting a very good picture. Tell them that just from what you are seeing the roof is worn out and needs replacing.

Telling your client that "you don't know" or that " I have never seen this before" is not a crime. Be honest and forthcoming and that would be the best thing you could do. I can't tell you how many times I have told my client that "I don't know, but I will see if I can research it.", it makes you look like a professional and shows that you care.

**John Arnold** · 09-01-2008, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by Reis Pearson

How would you write it up if you weren't certain it was Woodruff? I've never touched/seen Woodruff and when I googled I didn't find any photos to confirm, although description alone sounds like it.

Any help is appreciated!
Thanks,
Reis

Try googling with the correct spelling: woodruf.

**Jim Luttrall** · 09-01-2008, 09:09 AM

Masonite Woodruf

**Jim Luttrall** · 09-01-2008, 09:14 AM

http://www.inspectionnews.net/home_i...-shingles.html

**wayne soper** · 09-01-2008, 09:40 AM

wood RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRUUUUUFF
Try also class action suit hardboard shingles
Not good stuff, but you already know that.
Was it leaking yet?
Especially nice where the downspouts drain on it.
Mommy, why does the roof get bigger when it rains?

**Reis Pearson** · 09-01-2008, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by Scott Patterson

Telling your client that "you don't know" or that " I have never seen this before" is not a crime. Be honest and forthcoming and that would be the best thing you could do. I can't tell you how many times I have told my client that "I don't know, but I will see if I can research it.", it makes you look like a professional and shows that you care.

Thanks, I did... or at least I told the R.E.A., the client is out of town and was not onsite... not my favorite! But, I followed up with a phone call and had a pretty lengthy conversation, basically that I'd do some research (where you all come in... Thanks much for the CYA!) and he was very receptive (as they usually are).

I was only able to get into certain areas of the attic space and around the vents there was some evidence of previous water penetration. Unfortunately, there was no access (either vaulted ceiling or to low slope) to an attic space under the areas where I had expected to find more damage (downspouts discharge).

All in all, I gave my opinion that it need to be (at minimum) further evaluated and there was significant damage in areas.

Cheers and thanks for the assistance!
Reis

**Scott Patterson** · 09-01-2008, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by Reis Pearson

All in all, I gave my opinion that it need to be (at minimum) further evaluated and there was significant damage in areas.

You really did the evaluation already, no need to reevaluate. It needs to be replaced.

When we tell folks that something needs "further evaluation" this is could be taken as a sublime message to your client that it is really not all that bad.

**Jerry Peck** · 09-01-2008, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by Scott Patterson

You really did the evaluation already, not need to reevaluate. It needs to be replaced.

When we tell folks that something needs "further evaluation" this is could be taken as a sublime message to your client that it is really not all that bad.

I also leaves it wide open for a roofer to come in and say 'Looks perfectly fine to me." Then what have you done for your client?

*YOU* should have stated *what you thought*: "I've never seen this before and have a very bad feeling about it!", that usually translates into ' *In my opinion* the roof needs to be replaced. '

That statement now puts the onus onto the seller to prove otherwise, and it tells your client exactly what you think needs to be done.

The seller will (without you telling them to) have a roofer come in and "further evaluate it". When the roofer says 'Looks perfectly fine to me.', your client now has two competing and different opinions about that roof: 1) "replace it"; 2) "it's perfectly fine".

Which do you think your client will believe?

By simply washing it off your hands as 'needs further evaluation', you have done your client a disservice, and you could ultimately have done yourself a disservice too.

We've had the discussion about why HIs should not say 'it needs further evaluation' many times before.

Some HIs think it is okay to use all the time.

Other HIs think there is no need to use it, write *your opinion* on it, and *it will be* further evaluated by someone, if for no other reason than the seller trying to side step the issue.

As a general rule (there may be a very few exceptions) HIs have no need, and no business, saying 'further evaluate'.