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Thread: Gas Water Heater in Garage
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03-15-2011, 06:27 AM #1
Gas Water Heater in Garage
Are rules changing for gas Wtr Htrs in a garage? The builder says this installation is just fine.
This particular label just says to follow the installation manual. No time to search it out.
Similar Threads:John Kogel, RHI, BC HI Lic #47455
www.allsafehome.ca
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03-15-2011, 06:38 AM #2
Re: Gas Water Heater in Garage
That looks to be a FVIR water heater.
' correct a wise man and you gain a friend... correct a fool and he'll bloody your nose'.
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03-15-2011, 06:49 AM #3
Re: Gas Water Heater in Garage
2006 IRCG2408.2 (305.3) Elevation of ignition source.Equipment and
appliances having an ignition source shall be elevated such that
the source of ignition is not less than 18 inches (457 mm) above
the floor in hazardous locations and public garages, private
garages, repair garages, motor fuel-dispensing facilities and
parking garages. For the purpose of this section, rooms or
spaces that are not part of the living space of a dwelling unit and
that communicate directly with a private garage through openings
shall be considered to be part of the private garage.
Exception:Elevation of the ignition source is not required
for appliances that are listed as flammable vapor ignition
resistant.
' correct a wise man and you gain a friend... correct a fool and he'll bloody your nose'.
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03-15-2011, 07:10 AM #4
Re: Gas Water Heater in Garage
Shouldn't there be something protecting H2O heater from damage ?
Is it acceptable to obscure the warning label ?
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03-15-2011, 07:14 AM #5
Re: Gas Water Heater in Garage
Good point Garry
G2408.3 (305.5) Private garages.Appliances located in private
garages shall be installed with a minimum clearance of 6
feet (1829 mm) above the floor.
Exception:The requirements of this section shall not apply
where the appliances are protected from motor vehicle
impact and installed in accordance with Section G2408.2.
' correct a wise man and you gain a friend... correct a fool and he'll bloody your nose'.
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03-15-2011, 07:23 AM #6
Re: Gas Water Heater in Garage
Rick,
Sometimes I do see the forest for the trees.
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03-15-2011, 08:53 AM #7
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Of course the slimeball builder says its ok, what else would he say. Admit his guys do crap work.
- don't see a shut-off on the cold in
- don't see a shut-off on the gas in
- do we know how long those screws are that attach the clamps to the body of the tank? short screws, long screws rubbing on the inside of the actual water tank, or even started into the body of the water vessel. I don't know, do you? I would advise my client just based on those screws the unit is potentially defective and may warrant replacement. Is the builder willing to remove those screws in the presence of witnesses to show they are short enough not to have caused damage to the water vessel? If not, recommend replacement. The unit has been penetrated by non-approved materials. I doubt the manufacturer or UL would approve. Consider it defective.
- no insulation on copper water pipes or tank, if the garage warrants a heater, for what?, wouldn't the unit conceivably warrant insulation
- I'm guessing it gets cold up there. I would advise my client a) poor installation location, b) make damn sure you don't leave the garage door open in the winter, c) make sure that electric heater doesn't stop working
- no protection or elevation for the water tank as typically required
- does that vent pipe go straight out or into the house an then out, fire separation issue
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03-15-2011, 07:28 PM #8
Re: Gas Water Heater in Garage
I think maybe it is, but it does not say so. It does say there is a flammable vapour hazard, though.
Yes, the shutoffs are there. the gas valve is right at the wall, and the water shutoff is there, too.
Good point about the lack of insulation on pipes. We kind of ignore winter around here, but we get cold snaps, and power failures, too.
Believe it or not, the wall in the window is the neighbour's place. Our country's not big enough to give everybody a full 1/2 acre, eh?
The gas inspector signed this job off, so I guess it's on his plate now. Ooops.
John Kogel, RHI, BC HI Lic #47455
www.allsafehome.ca
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03-15-2011, 11:37 PM #9
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What happened to the Building permit? Never got one.
There are so many condition with that water heater. Make a list... Ask for the building permit.
Best
Ron
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03-16-2011, 09:23 AM #10
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03-16-2011, 09:29 AM #11
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03-22-2011, 02:00 PM #12
Re: Gas Water Heater in Garage
18" min above floor
bollards to protect from car
no mixing valve, heat trap.
no gas shut off valve
no vacuum breaker.
no expansion tank (required in BFP is installed)
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