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07-17-2011, 09:57 AM #1
tubing off of water heater drain valve ?
What could this copper tubing connected to the drain valve of a 22 year old electric water heater be ?
I could not see exactly where the tubing went because of insulation and duct work ,but it appeared to connect to the distribution piping under the bathrooms about 25 feet away. Could it be some type of passive hot water circulation loop to make hot water more readily available at the bathroom faucets?
The water heater was installed correctly and considering it's age was in remarkedly clean shape.
Thanks.
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07-17-2011, 10:44 AM #2
Re: tubing off of water heater drain valve ?
That sounds like a good guess to me. Is the arrow on the check valve pointing towards the heater?
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07-17-2011, 11:07 AM #3
Re: tubing off of water heater drain valve ?
Either a recirculation line as mentioned. Or perhaps someone installed a hot water baseboard heater in an added bathroom and are using the water heater as the source. in any case there must be a circulating pump for it to work as the check valve would prevent any "gravity" circulation.
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07-17-2011, 11:37 AM #4
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07-17-2011, 03:01 PM #5
Re: tubing off of water heater drain valve ?
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07-17-2011, 04:52 PM #6
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07-17-2011, 05:02 PM #7
Re: tubing off of water heater drain valve ?
Unfortunately, I didn't look close enough....very talkative clients (yes, three) fun time with nice enjoyable people but it was difficult to stay focused on the task...fortunately the house was in really great shape...older retired engineer type lived there and really took care of the place.
So other than writing that you think it is an atypical home grown attempt at improving response time at the hot water faucets and the inability to flush/drain the water heater ...what else if anything would you write about it ?
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07-17-2011, 05:15 PM #8
Re: tubing off of water heater drain valve ?
It Might have Choked Artie But it ain't gone'a choke Stymie! Our Gang " The Pooch " (1932)
Billy J. Stephens HI Service Memphis TN.
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07-17-2011, 05:33 PM #9
Re: tubing off of water heater drain valve ?
It is really not that atypical to see this type of connection. It is an accepted way to connect a super-heater on a geothermal heat pump system when the water heater does not have a bottom port for a return. About all I would say as a FYI is that the hot water system has a circulation pump to help cut down on the amount of cold water that has to be run out before the water at the faucet gets hot. No need to go into details unless the system was not functioning properly...ie...like a faulty pump.
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07-17-2011, 05:36 PM #10
Re: tubing off of water heater drain valve ?
Last edited by Robert Foster; 07-17-2011 at 05:41 PM.
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07-17-2011, 05:41 PM #11
Re: tubing off of water heater drain valve ?
Thank you James...an FYI along the lines of what you mention is what I wrote and also suggested inquiring with the current owner for further information.
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07-17-2011, 06:46 PM #12
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07-18-2011, 12:28 PM #13
Re: tubing off of water heater drain valve ?
Fer shur, it's an amateurish attempt to provide a passive hot water loop. Sometimes they work without a pump but more often than not a pump is necessary. I'm guessing with the WH in a basement and the master bath/shower some distance away, the hot water would normally take several minutes to arrive a the faucet/shower head without some attempt to modify the plumbing system. I wouldn't mind betting the 'other end' of the rising copper tubing is connected to a hot water line entering the furthest bathroom or possibly kitchen sink.
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07-18-2011, 12:49 PM #14
Re: tubing off of water heater drain valve ?
On these type of things I usually put in a comment like
"Unable to verify purpose I recommend client ask current owner the purpose and/or further evaluation by a qualified plumbing contractor."
Don Hester
NCW Home Inspections, LLC
Wa. St. Licensed H I #647, WSDA #80050, http://www.ncwhomeinspections.com
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07-18-2011, 01:05 PM #15
Re: tubing off of water heater drain valve ?
[quote=Robert Foster;173224]What could this copper tubing connected to the drain valve of a 22 year old electric water heater be ?
Maybe a Heat Pump? (air/water type)The return is teed into the cold supply of the tank . this was accepted & recommended, 20 + years ago.
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07-19-2011, 05:16 AM #16
Re: tubing off of water heater drain valve ?
It is more than likely a return line. It is defiantly not installed properly. Its funny that you posted this picture. I ran into a home owner in a plumbing supply house that wanted to plumb his return line the same way. I told him to put it back the way it was on the old water heater. Boiler drain removed 3/4 by 1/2 by 3/4 tee installed add boiler drain to end of tee, and add 1/2 line to tee all done.
Ron Hasil IL Plumbing Lic #058-160417
A-Archer Sewer & Plumbing specializing in:
Tankless Water Heaters | Drain and Sewer Cleaning | Sump and Ejector Pumps | Backflow RPZ Testing
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