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    I need a picture of a cripple wall bolted to a foundation-- if any of you have a higher resolution photo available, I'll owe you one. I'll be going through my archived photos, but finding a pic may take hours.

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    Default Re: Need pic: Cripple wall bolted to foundation

    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon Whitmore View Post
    I need a picture of a cripple wall bolted to a foundation-- if any of you have a higher resolution photo available, I'll owe you one. I'll be going through my archived photos, but finding a pic may take hours.
    If this works let me know and I will email it to you.

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    Scott,

    Pic #2 would be great.

    Thanks a bunch.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon Whitmore View Post
    Scott,

    Pic #2 would be great.

    Thanks a bunch.
    What is your email? You have it blocked on your profile......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon Whitmore View Post
    Scott,

    Pic #2 would be great.

    Thanks a bunch.

    Those photos show you how NOT to leave the insulation, make sure you note that when you use that photo.

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    They are also unbraced. Very weak.


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    Also, where the bolts?


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    What is your email? You have it blocked on your profile......
    Hi Scott,

    Strange, I didn't know I could block my e - mail. I'll PM you.


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    Never mind on the PM-- you don't seem to want to accept those.


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    Default Re: Need pic: Cripple wall bolted to foundation

    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon Whitmore View Post
    Never mind on the PM-- you don't seem to want to accept those.
    You can PM me, I get them all the time... I had the email turned off, but I turned it back on.

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    Default Re: Need pic: Cripple wall bolted to foundation

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Peck View Post
    Those photos show you how NOT to leave the insulation, make sure you note that when you use that photo.
    Yep, that is why I took the picture.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabe S View Post
    They are also unbraced. Very weak.
    How would you like to see a 3' and 4' cripple wall braced?

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    Default Re: Need pic: Cripple wall bolted to foundation

    This link has a pic with the basic idea of bracing a cripple wall.

    Earthquake Retrofitting, Foundation Bolting & Cripple Wall Bracing | Earthquake Safety

    Earthquake zone or not, it is still a weak spot in my unexpert opinion.

    Never done it before myself, but did notice in your pic that it was missing.


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    Hi Scott,

    This is what I get when I try to PM you:
    Scott Patterson has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her.


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    Gabe,

    That picture of the improved cripple wall bracing appears to show structural panel sheathing on one side, not both sides of the cripple studs, but I may be wrong.


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    Default Re: Need pic: Cripple wall bolted to foundation

    Hey Brandon, you're making it too difficult. If you'd click onto Scott's website link that is shown at the bottom of each one of his posts, it will take you to his website. His website has an "Email Me" link right there on the home page. Click on that and send him whatever you want.


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    Default Re: Need pic: Cripple wall bolted to foundation

    My direct email is scott@traceinspections.com The one on my site will work as well but due to the massive amounts of spam it also allows, it might be a day before I see it.

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    Default Re: Need pic: Cripple wall bolted to foundation

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabe S View Post
    This link has a pic with the basic idea of bracing a cripple wall.

    Earthquake Retrofitting, Foundation Bolting & Cripple Wall Bracing | Earthquake Safety

    Earthquake zone or not, it is still a weak spot in my unexpert opinion.

    Never done it before myself, but did notice in your pic that it was missing.
    I agree it is needed and most likely required in seismic areas. I would consider it overkill in most other locations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Patterson View Post
    I agree it is needed and most likely required in seismic areas. I would consider it overkill in most other locations.
    The majority of the work is putting up plywood and brackets to connect the cripple wall to the flooring system with some holes for venting. Not a great deal of work here, but a substantial difference in strength.

    My question is this? Why even build a cripple wall. Why not bring the foundation up directly to the flooring system. How much can the builder actually save?


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    Michael,

    Thanks, but I did send an e- mail to Scott through his website yesterday. I was just letting Scott know......

    Scott,

    I just e- mailed you at your address posted. Thanks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabe S View Post
    The majority of the work is putting up plywood and brackets to connect the cripple wall to the flooring system with some holes for venting. Not a great deal of work here, but a substantial difference in strength.

    My question is this? Why even build a cripple wall. Why not bring the foundation up directly to the flooring system. How much can the builder actually save?
    Well if they save $500 per home and they are building 10 homes the savings add up pretty darn quick. The photo I posted was from a Drees home, they're a large regional builder and they look at every dime.

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    Default Re: Need pic: Cripple wall bolted to foundation

    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon Whitmore View Post
    Michael,

    Thanks, but I did send an e- mail to Scott through his website yesterday. I was just letting Scott know......

    Scott,

    I just e- mailed you at your address posted. Thanks.
    You have mail!!

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    E- mail received-- thanks again.
    I never would have thought that a pic request would have gotten this many posts.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon Whitmore View Post
    E- mail received-- thanks again.
    I never would have thought that a pic request would have gotten this many posts.
    We can't help ourselves to point out everything we see wrong in a pic. It's like a reflex.


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    Default Re: Need pic: Cripple wall bolted to foundation

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabe S View Post
    We can't help ourselves to point out everything we see wrong in a pic. It's like a reflex.
    It's also a reflection of how busy we are in this sad real estate market!


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