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    Default Water supply pipes over service panel

    Galvanized water supply pipes or routed over service equipment and have leaked or dripped condensation. I know that routing supply pipes over service equipment is not allowed, however I am not sure on what code allows. Just looking for a little more clarification.

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    Default Re: Water supply pipes over service panel

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    E3305.3 Dedicated panel board space
    . The space equal to the
    width and depth of the panel board and extending from the floor
    to a height of 6 feet (1829 mm) above the panel board, or to the
    structural ceiling, whichever is lower, shall be dedicated to the
    electrical installation. Piping, ducts, leak protection apparatus
    and other equipment foreign to the electrical installation shall
    not be installed in such dedicated space.
    The area above the dedicated
    space shall be permitted to contain foreign systems, provided
    that protection is installed to avoid damage to the electrical
    equipment from condensation, leaks and breaks in such foreign
    systems (see Figure E3305.1).
    Exception: Suspended ceilings with removable panels shall
    be permitted within the 6-foot (1.8 m) dedicated space.
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    Default Re: Water supply pipes over service panel

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Stephens View Post
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    E3305.3 Dedicated panel board space
    . The space equal to the
    width and depth of the panel board and extending from the floor
    to a height of 6 feet (1829 mm) above the panel board, or to the
    structural ceiling, whichever is lower, shall be dedicated to the
    electrical installation. Piping, ducts, leak protection apparatus
    and other equipment foreign to the electrical installation shall
    not be installed in such dedicated space.
    The area above the dedicated
    space shall be permitted to contain foreign systems, provided
    that protection is installed to avoid damage to the electrical
    equipment from condensation, leaks and breaks in such foreign
    systems (see Figure E3305.1).
    Exception: Suspended ceilings with removable panels shall
    be permitted within the 6-foot (1.8 m) dedicated space.
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    Is there a specification for minimum width?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Goeken View Post
    Is there a specification for minimum width?
    "E3305.3 Dedicated panel board space. The space equal to the
    width and depth of the panel board..."

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    Default Re: Water supply pipes over service panel

    Quote Originally Posted by John Arnold View Post
    "E3305.3 Dedicated panel board space. The space equal to the
    width and depth of the panel board..."

    Noticed that in your original reply. What I was asking was is there a minimum for the "panel board" or does the sliding space enter into the allowance for pipe clearance?.


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    Default Re: Water supply pipes over service panel

    Quote Originally Posted by John Arnold View Post
    "E3305.3 Dedicated panel board space. The space equal to the
    width and depth of the panel board..."
    This differs from the NEC. The minimum width is 30 inches, which does not need to be centered on the panel. The panel can occur anywhere in that width. The door does need to be able to open 90 degrees.


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    Default Re: Water supply pipes over service panel

    jim I belive you are confusing working space (3305.2) and panel space(3305.3).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Port View Post
    This differs from the NEC.
    110.26 Spaces About Electrical Equipment.
    - (F) Dedicated Equipment Space. All switchboards, panelboards, distribution boards, and motor control centers shall be located in dedicated spaces and protected from damage.
    Exception: Control equipment that by its very nature or because of other rules of the Code must be adjacent to or within sight of its operating machinery shall be permitted in those locations.
    - - (1) Indoor. Indoor installations shall comply with 110.26(F)(1)(a) through (F)(1)(d).
    - - - (a) Dedicated Electrical Space. The space equal to the width and depth of the equipment and extending from the floor to a height of 1.8 m (6 ft) above the equipment or to the structural ceiling, whichever is lower, shall be dedicated to the electrical installation. No piping, ducts, leak protection apparatus, or other equipment foreign to the electrical installation shall be located in this zone.
    - - - - Exception: Suspended ceilings with removable panels shall be permitted within the 1.8-m (6-ft) zone.
    - - - (b) Foreign Systems. The area above the dedicated space required by 110.26(F)(1)(a) shall be permitted to contain foreign systems, provided protection is installed to avoid damage to the electrical equipment from condensation, leaks, or breaks in such foreign systems.
    - - - (c) Sprinkler Protection. Sprinkler protection shall be permitted for the dedicated space where the piping complies with this section.
    - - - (d) Suspended Ceilings. A dropped, suspended, or similar ceiling that does not add strength to the building structure shall not be considered a structural ceiling.

    Not different in the NEC.

    Paul said:
    jim I belive you are confusing working space (3305.2) and panel space(3305.3).
    I agree with Paul.

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