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    Default PVC to Cast Iron Waste Pipe

    This is a 2" PVC drain going into a 3" cast iron sanitary T with a 2" branch. I'm not sure if the connection is being made with caulk or mortar. Is it possible a neoprene compression donut is stuck in there?

    If not what are options for repair?


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    Default Re: PVC to Cast Iron Waste Pipe

    Looks like it is mortared into the old cleanout connection. Connection is designed to fail over time. Yes you could install a neoprene hub but a new cleanout needs to be added at the PVC pipe for servicing.

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    Default Re: PVC to Cast Iron Waste Pipe

    Thanks. You are right. That's a clean-out access.

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    Default Re: PVC to Cast Iron Waste Pipe

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Lamb View Post
    Thanks. You are right. That's a clean-out access.
    And a sanitary tee is required there for the PVC. A clean-out access *is not* suitable for that use.

    Obviously ... it "can" be done because you took a photo of it having been done, however, it is "not allowed" to be done - big different in those two words 'can' and 'allowed'.

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    Default Re: PVC to Cast Iron Waste Pipe

    TITLE 77: PUBLIC HEALTH



    CHAPTER I: DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH
    SUBCHAPTER r: WATER AND SEWAGE
    PART 890 ILLINOIS PLUMBING CODE
    SECTION 890.420 PIPE CLEANOUTS



    Section 890.420 Pipe Cleanouts


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    h) Cleanout Plugs. A cleanout shall not have a plumbing fixture installed in it or be used as a floor drain.

    TITLE 77: PUBLIC HEALTH
    CHAPTER I: DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH
    SUBCHAPTER r: WATER AND SEWAGE
    PART 890 ILLINOIS PLUMBING CODE
    SECTION 890.320 TYPES OF JOINTS



    Section 890.320 Types of Joints

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    i) Cement Mortar Joints. Except for repairs, cement mortar joints are prohibited.


    Section 890.330 Special Joints

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    g) Plastic Pipe to Non-Plastic Pipe Joints. Joints between plastic pipe and non-plastic pipe shall be made only by one of the following methods:

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    2) Non-pressure piping - Drain Waste Vent (DWV)

    A) Caulked lead joints with caulked adaptors.

    B) No-hub soil pipe shielded couplings with approved adaptor having a raised bead.

    C) Compression type joints for hub and spigot cast iron pipe.

    D) Threaded adaptors.

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    The part about cement mortar joints has to do with clay sewer repairs. In the past clay sewers were all installed using oakum and cement.


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