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    Default Re: fire rated door?

    Yes, it is not.

    It has a window in it.

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    Default Re: fire rated door?

    Thanks Scott, I figured that, but is there a label or stamp on fireproof doors?


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    Default Re: fire rated door?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim McClendon View Post
    Thanks Scott, I figured that, but is there a label or stamp on fireproof doors?
    Yes. Usually on hinge end of door.


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    Default Re: fire rated door?

    The door needs to have a 20 min rating or be 1 3/8" in thickness if it is a solid core. You can have a solid wood door that is 1 3/8" thick and it will satisfy the requirement. Solid wood doors seldom have a ID sticker, stamp or label on them.

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    Default Re: fire rated door?

    2006 IRC - 309.1 Opening protection: Openings from a private garage directly into a room used for sleeping purposes shall not be permitted. Other openings between the garage and residence shall be equipped with solid wood doors not less than1-3/8 inches in thickness, solid or honeycomb core steel doors not less than 1-3/8 inches thick, or 20-minute fire-rated doors.
    (no label than can't confirm therefore report)

    2006 IBC See 715.5 & 715,4,6,3,1 Fire protection Glazing. For those in California see 2007 CBC 715.5.

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    Default Re: fire rated door?

    Does not need to be a fire rated door.

    It could be ... or it could be (as pointed out by Jerry Mc. below) ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry McCarthy View Post
    solid wood doors not less than 1-3/8 inches in thickness, solid or honeycomb core steel doors not less than 1-3/8 inches thick,
    or 20-minute fire-rated doors.
    Jerry Mc.,

    I'm not fully understanding the below:

    (no label than can't confirm therefore report)
    You mean 'if not solid wood and not less than 1-3/8 inches and not a solid or honey comb steel door not less than 1-3/8 inches', right?

    If not one of those, then it must be labeled (to be a fire rated door) or it is not a proper door (not fire rated, and not one of the approved options.

    Scott,

    A fire rated door CAN HAVE a window in it, albeit of limited size (I believe it is 100 sq inches, which is why you find 3" by 33" view glass in many fire rated doors).

    A door with a window the size in the photo, I agree, with a window *like that* - not fire rated.

    Also neither does it meet the other two options for doors.

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    Default Re: fire rated door?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Peck View Post
    Scott,

    A fire rated door CAN HAVE a window in it, albeit of limited size (I believe it is 100 sq inches, which is why you find 3" by 33" view glass in many fire rated doors).

    A door with a window the size in the photo, I agree, with a window *like that* - not fire rated.

    Also neither does it meet the other two options for doors.
    That is true, but I have only seen that type of door in a commercial application and not in residental construction. But, then we are also seeing more and more commercial building products entering into the residental market.

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