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    besides the obvious clearances what else is wrong with this as it pertains to exhaust flues etc?
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    B-vent "connected" to draft hood without proper adapter. Is this the same water heater with staining at the burner area?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerome W. Young View Post
    besides the obvious clearances what else is wrong with this as it pertains to exhaust flues etc?
    Thanks!
    Jerome,

    You mean like:

    - No Type B gas vent is allowed to be within 36" in front of the panel.
    - No water pipe is allowed to be within 36" in front of the panel.
    - No water heater is allowed to be within 36" in front of the panel.

    But those are 'not allowed' because they encroach into the required 36" in-front-of-the-panel working space ... so it gets back to "the obvious clearances" you mentioned.

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    Wadda you mean clearance? It looks like it was the intention of the plumber to provide wireless bonding for the water heater's supply piping by putting it as close as possible to the electrical distribution panel? Don’t you agree that’s brilliant !

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Arnold View Post
    B-vent "connected" to draft hood without proper adapter. Is this the same water heater with staining at the burner area?


    John,

    According to the Simpson Dura-Vent website, an adapter is not required by the flue pipe manufacturer. However, it might be required by the water heater manufacturer.

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    Yes this is that same water heater


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    Too much wire sheathing inside the panel box.
    And Isn't that romex wire coming out of the BX cable on the bottom of the box?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry McCarthy View Post
    wireless bonding for the water heater's supply piping by putting it as close as possible to the electrical distribution panel? Don’t you agree that’s brilliant !
    Dang!

    I shoulda thunk o' dat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Nettnin View Post
    Too much wire sheathing inside the panel box.
    How much is too much?

    How much is required?

    And Isn't that romex wire coming out of the BX cable on the bottom of the box?
    That is flexible metal conduit, and, yes, it looks like NM cable is coming out of it - what's wrong with that? Same thing at the top left.

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    Besides the sloppy panel the NM cable is not protected on the walls.

    But your question was (what else is wrong with the flue as to the picture) so I don't know if you are looking for help on other things wrong or trying to stump us on something that is wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Schulz View Post
    But your question was (what else is wrong with the flue as to the picture)
    I think Jerome was asking about the vent in relation to the electrical panel, not necessarily the vent itself - such as if there was a requirement which did not allow the vent to be within some distance of a panel, and, to my knowledge, it could right next to it (but I would have a problem with that as it could overheat the panel and and insulation touching the panel enclosure).

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