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08-25-2014, 08:56 PM #1
What is this? and 2x6 for supports
I was in a crawlspace and came across this white powdery looking substance today. It was found only on the cement that was not covered by vapor barrier. Any ideas what it is?
Second just for my clarification 2x6 are not acceptable for supports correct? This crawlspace was roughly 50% 4x6 and 50% 2x6.
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08-26-2014, 05:30 AM #2
Re: What is this? and 2x6 for supports
The white deposits look like efflorescence, indicating moisture.
The "piers" are wrong, look like temporary supports or added to offset floor bounce.
Dom.
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08-26-2014, 05:54 AM #3
Re: What is this? and 2x6 for supports
I'm pretty sure the smallest wooden post that should be used is a 6x6, I don't have time to look it up but I'm about 99% sure. Also it needs to be treated wood and needs to have a concrete footing.
The white crystalline material could also be left over mold treatment(boric acid based treatment), but with that big of a pile I doubt that is what it is. What Dom said is mor logical....
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08-26-2014, 05:58 AM #4
Re: What is this? and 2x6 for supports
Unless there is some major load on the floor the 2x6 support should be fine. However the installation method isn't.
- does not appear to be attached at the top or bottom
- appears to be angled instead of vertically straight
- combine the angle, lack of attachment, floor movement, expansion, contraction, etc and the stud could come loose at some point and just fall over; then the floor starts bouncing again
- looks like you should also be concentrating on moisture levels and ventilation concerns for that crawl
- Oregon I'm assuming cold in winter so lack of insulation is another concern
- any critter droppings in there, always want to mention those to the client
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08-26-2014, 06:26 AM #5
Re: What is this? and 2x6 for supports
"Cement" is the product that builders add to gravel and sand to make "concrete". So unless it is still in a bag, call it concrete.
Sometiomes people will slam in a temporary pier like that to take spring out of the joist. This is done in dining rooms to stop glasses from tinkling when overweight people walk around the table, or in living rooms to support a piano.
So first, look at the span of the joist without the pier to see if that pier is required or just an added crutch.
Then recommend a proper post on a concrete footing. I have been told the seller simply removed his crummy post. Good, because it wasn't needed and could have become a highway for termites.
John Kogel, RHI, BC HI Lic #47455
www.allsafehome.ca
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08-26-2014, 06:38 AM #6
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08-26-2014, 07:33 AM #7
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08-27-2014, 06:27 AM #8
Re: What is this? and 2x6 for supports
Last edited by John Kogel; 08-27-2014 at 06:38 AM.
John Kogel, RHI, BC HI Lic #47455
www.allsafehome.ca
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08-27-2014, 07:57 AM #9
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08-27-2014, 09:00 AM #10
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08-27-2014, 09:11 AM #11
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The beatings will continue until morale has improved. mgt.
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08-27-2014, 10:02 AM #12
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08-28-2014, 07:05 AM #13
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