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06-11-2008, 03:44 PM #1
sill plate
I always theough that a doubled 2x6 was required for a sill plate but I can't find the code in my book. Anyone have this? I did a home today with a single and it was all over the place so now I'm trying to find the Santa clause so to speak.
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06-11-2008, 04:16 PM #2
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Is this for a 2 story ? Why 2X6 ?
In Calif 1 2x4 PT plate is code.
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Ron
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06-11-2008, 04:18 PM #3
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Yes 2 story. 2x6 2x4 no matter. My concern is whether we need them stacked, doubled. One on top of the other. This house had one plate set on the top of the block.
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06-11-2008, 04:39 PM #4
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06-11-2008, 04:48 PM #5
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Thanks Gun!
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06-11-2008, 08:04 PM #6
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The only reason to double them is to spread the load to supports not aligned with the load above, such as with single and double top plates. Single top plates require the joists/trusses to be closely aligned with the studs below, a doubled top plate eliminates that alignment need - the joists/trusses can now land wherever they fall.
When place on concrete, there is no need to double it.
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06-11-2008, 10:35 PM #7
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The only reason to double them is to spread the load to supports not aligned with the load above, such as with single and double top plates. Single top plates require the joists/trusses to be closely aligned with the studs below, a doubled top plate eliminates that alignment need - the joists/trusses can now land wherever they fall.
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06-12-2008, 07:27 AM #8
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06-12-2008, 07:53 AM #9
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Sometimes 2 plates are used with the application of a soft concrete floating floor. like Jib-Crete.
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Ron
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06-12-2008, 08:05 AM #10
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Ron,
That's Gyp-Crete.
The "Gyp" part stands for "gypsum".
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06-12-2008, 08:13 AM #11
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Never ues the stuff. L.O.L.
Jerry its just got to drive you nuts with some of us num-skulls around hear.
Thanks for the correction.
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Ron
Last edited by Ron Bibler; 06-12-2008 at 08:29 AM.
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06-13-2008, 11:21 AM #12
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... the Marx Bros. "Everybody knows there's no such thing as a sanity clause".
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06-13-2008, 03:24 PM #13
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Depends, might not raise the floor system, might make the walls taller.
Depending on where it was.
I should have said "to raise the framing"
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07-13-2008, 09:47 PM #14
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Just to throw in there. Standard would be a single 2x (or 3x) plate with 2 top plates with. PT over concrete and such.
Only thing I can think of with doubling plates.
Haven't built anything with doubled sill on bottom but have built with 3x bottom plate and a few 3x studs at breaks for shear.
On second floor apps, even with doubled plate over certain types of joist spans (?? as mentioned) would leave me with having to attach plates with SDS screws or some hardware, that wouldn't be any fun.
So, in short doubled joists are common as are double top plates.
Tim
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07-14-2008, 08:22 AM #15
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When confronted with doubled sill palates installed on the top of foundation stem walls I’m concerned should I see anchor bolting in that the builder used proper length steel anchor bolts to get the required 7 inch depth into concrete. If I don’t see visual evidence of bolting then I’m concerned they may not exist? Either way triggers the appropriate comment in my report. I never framed with single top plates and never actually saw anyone else do it in the 35 years I spent as a builder. The codes do allow it, but only under certain conditions. (imposed loads)
Jerry McCarthy
Building Code/ Construction Consultant
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07-14-2008, 10:31 AM #16
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That was the first time i'd seen it too. And went in as a 3 stooges type application if I remember correctly.
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