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Thread: Bottom plate off at foundation
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06-15-2010, 05:39 AM #1
Bottom plate off at foundation
This was a block foundation wall on a remodeled 1950s home.
The exterior foundations looked good except for one section that was suspect.
I am not sure what to make of this since it is not fully visible but any thoughts would be appreciated.
It almost seems that the bottom plate is off somehow??
In the first two pictures it looks like the bottom plate is tilted.
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06-15-2010, 06:45 AM #2
Re: Bottom plate off at foundation
Looks to me like the house may have been raised and an attempt at leveling was made.
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06-15-2010, 06:58 AM #3
Re: Bottom plate off at foundation
That is a possibility.
I don't like this section being open, I'm thinking it should probably have the siding removed and then have the proper coverings installed.
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06-15-2010, 07:57 AM #4
Re: Bottom plate off at foundation
Is that a stucco covering over the foundation ?
Or is that paint on the concrete ?
What ever is going on its all wrong...
If its stucco the you would have stucco with a newer type siding covering that with inaccessible areas to the exterior walls that could have any number of unknown condition.
Best
Ron
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06-15-2010, 08:56 AM #5
Re: Bottom plate off at foundation
It is a parge coating over the concrete block.
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06-15-2010, 03:59 PM #6
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06-15-2010, 04:16 PM #7
Re: Bottom plate off at foundation
Several pictures appear to be that of a former garage or carport being converted to living space withOUT proper foundation work, just using former sloped garage floor without modification, and possibly removing or covering over with mulch the former apron.I see both plywood and apparent pressboard parallel to the ground peeking through in two different pics.I suspect the possiblity that the exposed cut wood and higher exposed foundation are former connecting porch or breezeway between former garage and home. I suspect the lumber ends we are seeing are unbanded "sleepers" placed on former patio/porch/breezeway slab and former garage floor slab to support a plywood and/or pressboard subfloor, uninsulated and open to the outdoors to wind, rain, snow, insects and vermin. It is all wrong. Grade and elevations not acceptable, esp. NYS. I also see exposed sheathing in some pics. Last pic looks like someone tried to drive in to former garage opening see cracked siding! Doubtful conversion to habital space was permitted or to approved plans.
Last edited by H.G. Watson, Sr.; 06-15-2010 at 04:39 PM.
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06-19-2010, 05:55 PM #8
Re: Bottom plate off at foundation
John, Is it an old garage or house? From the pictures, I'm not sure how anyone could "assume" it's a garage. Could just as easy be that someone cut the old plate out and put a few temporary shims, then went to have a beer and forgot it. Or, maybe they're leveling the wall/floor. Could be several things. What ever it is, it's not good, unless they're trying to ventilate the dirt or basement/crawl. The stucco looks like there are fiberglass threads showing at the top, with parging over it. Is it foam insulation that has been parged?
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06-19-2010, 06:21 PM #9
Re: Bottom plate off at foundation
I do not believe there was ever a garage here.
The foundation is block with a parge coat, no insulation.
The block appears to have had the front facing compromised / removed for some reason and then wood blocking installed. Very strange setup.
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06-21-2010, 04:07 AM #10
Re: Bottom plate off at foundation
One good thing is they were not smart enough to hang a 4" starter strip for remodeling to lock the first course of siding in, but a "J" channel, (which does not look to have weeps drilled in it every 24 inches)
Thank them for being lazy, even if they could not figure out the available siding accessories for leveling an elevation, they lacked the creativity to install even a piece of aluminum coil to hide the crime scene.
Joseph Ehrhardt
Building Forensic Specialist LLC
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