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08-29-2007, 04:30 PM
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white powdery deposits...???
I found these white powdery depostits on pressure treated wood pads during a mobile home inspection. There were also fine deposits present on the dirt in the crawlspace. Does anyone have a clue as to what this stuuf is???
thank you kindly, Ron
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08-29-2007, 06:29 PM
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Re: white powdery deposits...???
Nope
Was it attached/growing or loose powder?
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08-29-2007, 06:32 PM
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Re: white powdery deposits...???
It is just a loose powder. It appears to be a secretion from the soil.
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08-29-2007, 06:34 PM
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Re: white powdery deposits...???
Ron,
Pretty strange. Not something I have seen before.
Unless, it is efflorescence from the CMUs.
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08-29-2007, 06:40 PM
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Re: white powdery deposits...???
The pier seems to be wicking moisture from the soil and carrying the dissolved minerals
such as salt leaving a deposit.
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08-29-2007, 06:47 PM
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Re: white powdery deposits...???
Powdered boric acid or another insecticide product?
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Jim Luttrall
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Allen, Texas 75002
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08-29-2007, 06:51 PM
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Re: white powdery deposits...???
Jim,
That was what I was thinking. Maybe they had an ant infestation coming in around that pier and placed it (boric acid) around it. Looks like it coming around the other side in the pic.
By the way, when are they going to get through with 75 in Allen? What a mess.
Rick
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In the words of Mike Tyson.... "Everyone has a plan until they get hit inda mouf"
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08-29-2007, 07:55 PM
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Re: white powdery deposits...???
Rick, I don't think we will ever see the end of construction on 75. As soon as they finish one project, it is out of date and they have to start another.
I think I heard that the region is projected to double in population in the next 10 years or so. Be happy now, 'cause it isn't getting any better!
I heard the new HOV lane is supposed to be ready by Nov.
Jim
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08-29-2007, 08:02 PM
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Re: white powdery deposits...???
Jim, Rick,
You could be right. We cannot comment on pest in Tennessee. Pest control Guy has to make a living too. Seems like if I had a pest problem and that much stuff I'd put it on
all 4 sides. But in Tennessee we are not smart enough to say you have raccoons living in the chimney. Noted possible wildlife in chimney as I shined light down and saw two eyes
looking back. Might want to check with the Meth Lab Guy.
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08-30-2007, 07:41 AM
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Re: white powdery deposits...???
Originally Posted by Billy Stephens
Jim, Rick,
You could be right. We cannot comment on pest in Tennessee. Pest control Guy has to make a living too. Seems like if I had a pest problem and that much stuff I'd put it on
all 4 sides. But in Tennessee we are not smart enough to say you have raccoons living in the chimney. Noted possible wildlife in chimney as I shined light down and saw two eyes
looking back. Might want to check with the Meth Lab Guy.
Hey Billy,
Can you provide the chapter and verse that says we can not report on critters? I know of no law or rule that says I can not report what I see. I'm afraid that this is more home inspector folklore that has been fostered by some of the schools and other inspectors who do not really know.
If I see bugs, or a 30lb pissed off Coon it is reported. Same goes for their droppings or nest that I find in an attic. Now as for telling a homeowner that they have termites? If I find mud tunnels, or the termites I will simple take a picture and include it in my report. I then tell them to have a licensed PC contractor inspect and treat as needed due to what I found.
Ron, I would bet that what you have found is boric acid or something similar. It would not even make my report. |
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08-30-2007, 10:07 AM
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Re: white powdery deposits...???
Scott,
Rules Tennessee Department of Commerce and Insurance Division Regulatory Chapter
0780-5-12 page12. Statement in PIA and Written report that excludes Radon, Pest,Lead
Paint, Mold, Insecticides ect. Page 11 states does not exclude you from commenting but
you are required to have the specified exclusions in PIA and Written report. Apparent
evidence of activity suggest contacting pest professional is as far as I go in writing.If client
presses then opinion looks like it to me?
Tried to upload but I'm tech no challenged. Found on Home Inspectors Commissioners web. page.
Last edited by Billy Stephens : 08-30-2007 at 10:15 AM.
Reason: change PSI to PIA
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08-30-2007, 12:38 PM
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Re: white powdery deposits...???
Dom,
Yes Thank you. These are the TN. Rules and read as the enacted revised law. First purposed act as amended right before finial passage. Page 11states does not limit comments.Page 12 is required statement on both PIA and written report.
Billy
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08-30-2007, 03:47 PM
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Re: white powdery deposits...???
I don't read anything in there which says "We cannot comment on pest ... ".
Says you don't have to, and that it is excluded from the standard home inspection, but does not say 'don't do it'.
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08-30-2007, 04:08 PM
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Re: white powdery deposits...???
Mr. Peck,
You are correct page 11 does not limit comment.
Billy
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08-30-2007, 04:50 PM
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Re: white powdery deposits...???
Originally Posted by Billy Stephens
Mr. Peck,
You are correct page 11 does not limit comment.
Billy
Ya see, we have just put a stop to some home inspector folklore. Now if we could just take care of the remaining 3451!
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08-30-2007, 05:07 PM
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Re: white powdery deposits...???
Scott,
Looking froward to learning from your in site thats quite a resume you have posted on your wed page. Just watch out for those Lawyers with their legalize.
Billy
Last edited by Billy Stephens : 08-30-2007 at 05:19 PM.
Reason: Spelling again changed there to their
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08-30-2007, 05:59 PM
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Re: white powdery deposits...???
Originally Posted by Billy Stephens
Scott,
Looking froward to learning from your in site thats quite a resume you have posted on your wed page. Just watch out for those Lawyers with their legalize.
Billy
I really enjoy working more for dem lawyers, da pay a heck more than home inspections!! 
We have more folks on this site with more credentials than I could ever hope to have. I'm just a little fish in the ocean.
After 12 years in this business you tend to acquire more education certifications and titles than one could ever use in a lifetime. |
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08-30-2007, 06:52 PM
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Re: white powdery deposits...???
Guys, don't think you are "Scott" free (pun intended) just because it is not limited in the HI law. Check out the Structural pest rules. That is where the limitation about what we can and cannot do and say in regard to pest in TX. We have been around this bend before for the TX boys.
Jim
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08-30-2007, 07:38 PM
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Re: white powdery deposits...???
Originally Posted by Jim Luttrall
Guys, don't think you are "Scott" free (pun intended) just because it is not limited in the HI law. Check out the Structural pest rules. That is where the limitation about what we can and cannot do and say in regard to pest in TX. We have been around this bend before for the TX boys.
Jim
Jim,
I suspect that if you read those rules (I'm sure you have - I have not) you will find that "structural pests" does not include raccoons, mice, rats, squirrels, etc.
Termites, Old House Borers, Powder Post Beetles, and the like (wood destroying insects) - Yes, probably. Rodents? I doubt HIs are forbidden from talking about them. |
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