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    Default Re: unique ladder standoff

    I think one of those pics shows the individual standing on the "do not stand on this step" step.

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    Default Re: unique ladder standoff

    This looks like a good attachment for working on a gutter, etc. However it should not be used to transit to the roof, as it does not meet the recommended 3' (OSHA) above the landing. I would be interested in it's weight as it will make the ladder unbalanced and a little difficult you swing it up.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Peck View Post
    Thanks Jerry for the post. This is exactly what I've been looking for. I have 2 different types that I use. But it takes too long to Install and are too bulky to leave on the ladder when transporting it on my truck. So I just ordered my today. Again, thank you for the post

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    Quote Originally Posted by fidel gonzales View Post
    Thanks Jerry for the post. This is exactly what I've been looking for. I have 2 different types that I use. But it takes too long to Install and are too bulky to leave on the ladder when transporting it on my truck. So I just ordered my today. Again, thank you for the post
    Let us know what you think. That does look like a decent product.

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    Default Re: unique ladder standoff

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Goeken View Post
    This looks like a good attachment for working on a gutter, etc. However it should not be used to transit to the roof, as it does not meet the recommended 3' (OSHA) above the landing.
    Guess you did not scroll down far enough to see this or the photo next to it: "Attaches to any rung of the ladder."?

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    Default Re: unique ladder standoff

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Peck View Post
    Guess you did not scroll down far enough to see this or the photo next to it: "Attaches to any rung of the ladder."?
    Oh ya! It was two or three pictures below the one saying "..safe access to the roof..." with the guy getting ready to climb over the top (no 3' there). Every photo except the one you mentioned has the device at the end of the ladder. My only concern is safe use of the device.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Goeken View Post
    Oh ya! It was two or three pictures below the one saying "..safe access to the roof..." with the guy getting ready to climb over the top (no 3' there). Every photo except the one you mentioned has the device at the end of the ladder. My only concern is safe use of the device.
    In my opinion ... the photo showing the least safe access to the roof is the one showing that mounted several rungs down with the required 3 feet of ladder sticking up - I don't know about anyone else, but *stepping around* a ladder sticking up 3 feet is *not* as *safe* as 'stepping up and over the top of the ladder.

    I know, the 3 feet is there to give you something to hold onto, and you NEED something to hold onto when you step *around* the ladder, better yet is to just step up and through the rails over the top rung ...

    ... which is hard to do when the top rung is 3 feet up in the air.

    Me, I set the ladder shorter above the roof and go over the top, OSHA or no OSHA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Peck View Post
    In my opinion ... the photo showing the least safe access to the roof is the one showing that mounted several rungs down with the required 3 feet of ladder sticking up - I don't know about anyone else, but *stepping around* a ladder sticking up 3 feet is *not* as *safe* as 'stepping up and over the top of the ladder.

    I know, the 3 feet is there to give you something to hold onto, and you NEED something to hold onto when you step *around* the ladder, better yet is to just step up and through the rails over the top rung ...

    ... which is hard to do when the top rung is 3 feet up in the air.

    Me, I set the ladder shorter above the roof and go over the top, OSHA or no OSHA.
    It is not getting off, it is getting back on. How do you approach a short ladder, facing out and with nothing to grab? Or do you turn around and back down to the ladder?

    I approach the ladder slightly to one side, grasp the section sticking up past the roof, then turn towards the roof as I lower one foot onto a rung below the gutter. But I really don't care for the Little Giant types with the wide spread at the top. It forces you too far from the center. So my preference is a solid ladder with a narrow top, two or three rungs above the gutter.

    I don't damage the gutter because I tend to have the ladder slightly more upright, with minimal pressure on the gutter. And I will strap the top to the gutter to reduce the chance of it sliding away.

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    Default Re: unique ladder standoff

    Quote Originally Posted by John Kogel View Post
    It is not getting off, it is getting back on. How do you approach a short ladder, facing out and with nothing to grab? Or do you turn around and back down to the ladder?
    By bending over/stooping over slightly - also lowers your center of gravity and reduces the risk of falling off the roof.

    The safest ladder would likely be one made with the top 1 or 2 rungs not there as that would allow the side rails to serve as 'grab rails' to step between. Being as the rungs are typically shaped for the ladder to only go up one way, the two 'grab rails' would always be at the top.

    Little Giant ladders (and their knock-offs) can be used either end up, and with the wider stance of the spread legs at both ends of the ladder, makes them even less safe to 'go around the ladder' than simply 'go over the ladder'.

    There was a time when I would just take a running start and jump up onto the roof ... hoping I didn't jump over it to the next house ... OKAY I'M KIDDING

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Peck View Post
    Me, I set the ladder shorter above the roof and go over the top, OSHA or no OSHA.
    I'm telling....

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